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Linux overlord Linus Torvalds has offered some very choice words about different approaches security, during a discussion about whitelisting features proposed for version 4.15 of the Linux kernel. Torvalds' ire was directed at open software aficionado and member of Google's Pixel security team Kees Cook, who he has previously accused of idiocy. Cook earned this round of shoutiness after he posted a request to "Please pull these hardened usercopy changes for v4.15-rc1."
[...] Torvalds has long been unafraid to express himself in whatever language he chooses on the kernel and has earned criticism for allowing it to become a toxic workplace. He's shrugged off those accusations with an argument that his strong language is not personal, as he is defending Linux rather than criticising individuals. On this occasion his strong language is directed at a team and Cook's approach to security, rather than directly at Cook himself. It's still a nasty lot of language to have directed at anyone.
Some 'security people are f*cking morons' says Linus Torvalds
[Reference]: [GIT PULL] usercopy whitelisting for v4.15-rc1
[Linus' Response]: Re: [GIT PULL] usercopy whitelisting for v4.15-rc1
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Bot on Tuesday November 21 2017, @11:07AM (6 children)
To you, special snowflakes.
You, who fight the injustice in this world, not by listening what the rude boy has to say, but by feeling offended and censoring him (it's always a him) no matter what.
You are right.
Of course, you always are.
So, given that bad guy Linus has offered his evil patriarchal right wing nationalistic offending code under a license called GPL, please do one thing.
FORK IT.
No, it's not a cuss word. Fork as in spoon and fork. Look it up on wikipedia. Wikipedia is always right too.
So, put up your beautiful unicorn github page.
Then, author a beautiful Code of Conduct pdf in a proper calligraphic font and have all contributors sign it.
Then work on your beautiful fork and let bad persons, who can handle being shout at and maybe find an argument to reply with, work with Linus.
Everybody wins.
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(Score: 2) by stretch611 on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:25PM
I know which version I will stay with...
and might I add... well said.
Now with 5 covid vaccine shots/boosters altering my DNA :P
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:47PM (1 child)
Sounds like jealousy dripping in envy to me. Or just another bitter old worn out programmer. If you're working conditions suck so hard, I suggest getting a new job. Or a new life. Best leave the field and let someone younger and hungrier than you lead the way.
(Score: 2) by DECbot on Tuesday November 21 2017, @05:35PM
While a person whining about how they were rudely addressed does sound young, bitching and moaning about it does not make them sound hungry. And honestly, I would not like to follow someone who cannot stomach course language and harsh criticism. There's a big difference between "We're a community, not an audience!" and "FUCK BETA."
cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @06:00PM (1 child)
as a liberal myself, I don't think he was patriarchal right wing nationalistic.
i think he stood up to prevent his creation from getting soiled by commercial interests that are taking a great deal of liberties with it.
the only snowflakes seem to be the monied interests that are upset he can't be made into someone's bitch.
which seems to be that those interests are more traditional patriarchal right wing sorta stereotypical views like for big business and censorship of thoughts that violate the world view. Traditional liberals have an open mind. traditional conservatives... are conservative.
i guess it could be stated that linus is not acting with an open mind, but he is, and he has rejected their approach and explained why. strongly, and with good reason. besides, English is the language of business and he expressed himself better than I could in any other language from his neck of the woods.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Friday November 24 2017, @12:53PM
> traditional conservatives... are conservative
Exactly. The mindset is: linux became a decent kernel by NOT acting like mindless patch galore windows. Why change?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @08:28PM
It's funny when seniors get grumpy!