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posted by mrpg on Tuesday November 21 2017, @05:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the yes-but-be-nice dept.

Linux overlord Linus Torvalds has offered some very choice words about different approaches security, during a discussion about whitelisting features proposed for version 4.15 of the Linux kernel. Torvalds' ire was directed at open software aficionado and member of Google's Pixel security team Kees Cook, who he has previously accused of idiocy. Cook earned this round of shoutiness after he posted a request to "Please pull these hardened usercopy changes for v4.15-rc1."

[...] Torvalds has long been unafraid to express himself in whatever language he chooses on the kernel and has earned criticism for allowing it to become a toxic workplace. He's shrugged off those accusations with an argument that his strong language is not personal, as he is defending Linux rather than criticising individuals. On this occasion his strong language is directed at a team and Cook's approach to security, rather than directly at Cook himself. It's still a nasty lot of language to have directed at anyone.

Some 'security people are f*cking morons' says Linus Torvalds

[Reference]: [GIT PULL] usercopy whitelisting for v4.15-rc1
[Linus' Response]: Re: [GIT PULL] usercopy whitelisting for v4.15-rc1


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  • (Score: 2) by crafoo on Tuesday November 21 2017, @01:34PM (2 children)

    by crafoo (6639) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @01:34PM (#599628)

    Linus cannot fire these people. If he could, maybe he would be nicer to them because he knows he won't have his team's time wasted dealing with their fantasy-land security patches. No one sends you off into the world with a guarantee that when you do something stupid you're not going to get your feelings hurt. We don't need to be spiteful or mean, but we should be able to deal with harsh criticism. Yes, that's what this is, harsh criticism. Linus provided a pretty good explanation of what they did wrong and what they need to improve, and how. Perfectly reasonable response in my opinion and I thank him for it.

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  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:52PM (1 child)

    by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:52PM (#599701)

    Linus cannot fire these people.

    Maybe not, but is there any reason he couldn't just stop accepting their contributions?

    --
    "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @10:35PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @10:35PM (#599922)

      That is what he did.