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posted by martyb on Tuesday November 21 2017, @08:12AM   Printer-friendly
from the it's-not-YOUR-computer-any-more dept.

Quoted from the http://tidbits.com/article/17633: "If you're running macOS 10.12 Sierra or earlier, and do not want to upgrade to 10.13 High Sierra right now, be careful because Apple has started pushing High Sierra to older Macs and making it all too easy to upgrade inadvertently." [...]


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by RedBear on Tuesday November 21 2017, @02:42PM (4 children)

    by RedBear (1734) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @02:42PM (#599655)

    Actually, I discovered they still sell the mid-2015 MacBook Pro which has the sane features - i.e. magsafe, and no idiotic touchbar.
    That could very well be the last Mac I buy. *sigh*

    I hear that kind of thing a lot these days.

    I have two 17" Unibody MacBook Pros. A 2009 and 2011. The 2011 was bought used, as a backup in case the 2009 died. I like the size of the screen, especially as I get older and have more difficulty with tiny high resolution screens with ridiculously tiny text. You have to use it to understand. My wife phrased it thusly, "Wow, this is almost like using my iMac. There's so much room, and everything is big enough to see." This can't be replicated with a smaller screen no matter how many pixels you stuff into it. I hate all of Apple's new stuff, even before the Touch Bar and the "no you can't have all those useful ports, why, because we said so".

    When these two MBPs can no longer be revived or replaced, I honestly don't know what I'll move on to. There is nothing comparable in existence that isn't an ugly plastic multi-colored monstrosity. Apple shows no signs of ever making a new 17" or even 16" MBP. What's this rolling down my cheek? Is it a tear of infinite sadness? Yes... yes, I think it is.

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  • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Tuesday November 21 2017, @05:28PM (1 child)

    by TheRaven (270) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @05:28PM (#599737) Journal

    I wasn't convinced by the touchbar, but a couple of my colleagues have got them and they're surprisingly useful - the escape key is still the corner so your fingers can find it (so vi users are happy) and it's programmable by applications, so you they can have context-specific shortcuts that aren't as confusing as the behaviour of a function key changing depending on the selection.

    That said, I still have a late 2013 MBP, in spite of our policy of upgrades after three years, because 32GB of RAM is the one upgrade that I actually want and it's not available yet. I had been blaming Intel for not supporting LPDDR4, but Dell has managed to put 32GB of DDR4L into a laptop and there's only a 15% power difference between LPDDR4 and DDR4L.

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    • (Score: 4, Informative) by RedBear on Tuesday November 21 2017, @07:54PM

      by RedBear (1734) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @07:54PM (#599825)

      I wouldn't care about the Touch Bar if it had been just an addition. What I can't tolerate is the removal of physical media keys that have been basically the same for 20 years, that I can practically use by reflex now even in the dark. To have those not be reliably accessible without going through an extra step is not acceptable to me. Touch interfaces are useless unless you're looking at them, which car manufacturers have to keep rediscovering.

      But even if that problem were solved, the increased cost, poor battery life, lack of higher memory capacity, lack of upgradeability, and lack of any of the common ports I'm still constantly using are all bridges that I cannot cross. The Touch Bar is almost the least of the issues with the latest MBPs. Just saw another Apple pro on YouTube a few days ago do a hardcore panning of the current MBP which he said he would NEVER, EVER BUY, and he was far from the first one to say that.

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  • (Score: 2) by ilsa on Tuesday November 21 2017, @07:00PM (1 child)

    by ilsa (6082) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 21 2017, @07:00PM (#599790)

    I've been buying the 2015s because a) I'm not paying an extra grand for what amounts to gimmicks, and b) the whole USB-C marketplace is just too unstable and I'm still not convinced that USB-C won't end up being a giant shitshow.

    When Jobs still lived, he liked minimalism but (for the most part) within reason. Under Cook, Apple has gone minimalist to the point of absurdity, presumably to maximize their accessories revenue.

    Can you believe that their USB-C power supplies don't even come with a cable? You have to buy the bloody USB-C cable *separately*! It's petty to the point of nonsensical.

    • (Score: 2) by RedBear on Tuesday November 21 2017, @08:08PM

      by RedBear (1734) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @08:08PM (#599838)

      When Jobs still lived, he liked minimalism but (for the most part) within reason. Under Cook, Apple has gone minimalist to the point of absurdity, presumably to maximize their accessories revenue.
      Can you believe that their USB-C power supplies don't even come with a cable? You have to buy the bloody USB-C cable *separately*! It's petty to the point of nonsensical.

      I can and do believe it. They have certainly become a company that seems to want to nickel and dime their customers to death. Except their nickel and dime are $50 and $100. I estimated I would need about $300 worth of adapter dongles to replicate the ports I currently use, on top of the hundreds of dollars price increase for the new MBP. They've really lost their damn minds at Apple.

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      ... Peace out. Got bear stuff to do. 彡ʕ⌐■.■ʔ