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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday November 23 2017, @04:53PM   Printer-friendly
from the microtransaction-fail dept.

Video game gambling schemes known as "loot boxes" or "loot crates" could be banned or restricted by regulators:

We learned last week that Belgium's gambling authority was investigating loot crates in Star Wars Battlefront II over concerns that they constitute gambling. Now, the decision is in, and the answer is a resounding yes, according to Dutch-language publication VTM Nieuws. The commission claims that purchasable add-on boxes, the contents of which are randomized, mix "money and addiction" and thus are a form of gambling.

Belgian Minister of Justice Koen Geens added: "Mixing gambling and gaming, especially at a young age, is dangerous for the mental health of the child." The commission will now reportedly work through the European Union's process to execute a total ban. We've reached out to Belgium's Gaming Commission for more details on its next steps and the legal implications of the ruling.

The country isn't alone in its stance on loot boxes. Just hours ago, Rep. Chris Lee (D) from Hawaii denounced EA's "predatory behavior" in a speech uploaded to YouTube (first spotted by Kotaku). In the clip, Lee also talks of the detrimental affect micro-transactions have on children, with specific reference to Battlefront II, which he describes as a a "Star Wars-themed online casino, designed to lure kids into spending money".

What Are Loot Boxes? Gaming's Big New Problem, Explained

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Ingar on Thursday November 23 2017, @06:04PM (6 children)

    by Ingar (801) on Thursday November 23 2017, @06:04PM (#600736) Homepage

    Disclaimer: I live in Belgium

    This has been in the local news for the past few days. It began with an investigation of the national gambling commision
    and the case now went up to the DOJ.

    Gambling is effectively illegal here. Some forms are allowed, but they are heavily regulated.
    So we do have a national lottery and even a few casino's. Anything else is basicly a no-no.
    It's important to note that both offering and participating in gambling is unlawful, and the fines are
    quite hefty. Loot Box buyers might suddenly find themselves on the wrong end of The Law.

    From with I heard, the Netherlands are looking into the issue as well.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by TheRaven on Thursday November 23 2017, @06:19PM (1 child)

    by TheRaven (270) on Thursday November 23 2017, @06:19PM (#600747) Journal
    Gambling regulations are always a source of amusement. A few years ago, some MIT folk were caught cheating at roulette by having a button that they pressed when the ball came past which would predict with high accuracy where the ball would land. Normally that would be the end of the story, but it turns out that gambling regulations for casinos require that the games be random, and the fact that this method of cheating worked proved that the game was deterministic and so was a game of skill rather than chance (betting on games of skill, where the skill of the participant is the object of the bet, was illegal). There was some intense lobbying from casinos to avoid legal trouble as a result.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @11:44AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @11:44AM (#601019)

      wait isn't the gambling the source of the amusement? the regulations follow, like a whiny, nagging significant other wanting you to leave before you're done.

      (and i read about that, the MIT guys made big bucks with their analysis and techniques to win. i envy smart people with time on their hands to spend trying to defeat a system--be it hackers or gamblers, since the goal is often the same... sometimes the journey is what is important with the payoff just being a benefit)

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 23 2017, @06:54PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 23 2017, @06:54PM (#600764)

    Err Belgium had betting shops like tipco and ladbrokes last time I checked. Have they been shut down?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @01:27AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @01:27AM (#600892)

      Signs point to "no." http://sports.ladbrokes.be/en [ladbrokes.be] https://twitter.com/LadbrokesBE [twitter.com]

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by qzm on Friday November 24 2017, @02:27AM

      by qzm (3260) on Friday November 24 2017, @02:27AM (#600902)

      You do know that betting and gambling are two quite different things right?

      One is selection of a winner based on [whatever factors you consider important], however it is most certainly not a random outcome.
      The other is placing money down on an essentially random outcome, with a much higher possible return.

      Of course there is plenty of gray in between, and both tend to be regulated, however they are most certainly different things.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday November 23 2017, @07:22PM

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday November 23 2017, @07:22PM (#600776) Homepage Journal

    We have a national lottery too, a Chuck Schumer beauty, it's called the "Diversity Visa Lottery Program." Sounds nice, it is not nice, it is not good. It hasn't been good and we have been against it. It's a big gamble, a gamble with our safety. The terrorist who did that horrible attack on New York came into our country through it. I want merit based. We're going to quickly as possible get rid of chain migration and move to a merit-based system. Keep the gambling in the casinos! #MAGA 🇺🇸