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San Juan submarine: 'Explosion' detected in hunt for Argentine vessel
The Argentine navy says an event consistent with an explosion was recorded near where a submarine disappeared last week with 44 crew on board. An "abnormal, singular, short, violent, non-nuclear event" had been detected in the south Atlantic, a spokesman said. The information came from an Austria-based anti-nuclear test watchdog, Capt Balbi said. It follows a report of a loud noise in the same area.
The ARA San Juan disappeared last Wednesday. More than a dozen countries including Russia and the US have sent assistance.
The new information was provided to the Argentine navy on Thursday by the Vienna-based Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO), Capt Balbi said. In a statement, the CTBTO said two of its hydro-acoustic stations had detected a signal from an "underwater impulsive event".
Also at NYT, CNN, and The Guardian.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 24 2017, @03:16PM (3 children)
Alright - you've got me feeling a little guilty for believing that story about the gay sailor causing the explosion. Why is/was the story so believable? Let me explain, this way.
The average ship's crew has an average age of about 21 or 22. That is, despite a few old sea dogs, the crew is mostly composed of kids. Kids do stupid crap. As they age, they do less and less stupid crap, but they have to survive long enough to age.
Gays aboard ship? Most of them were confused young idiots. Doing stupid shit all the time. The one, single gay sailor who was steady and reliable was thirty something. I guess age works the same way with gays. So, maybe, statistically speaking, gays weren't any more unreliable than all the rest of the sailor. I've never attempted to find any statistics. I only know for sure that every damned gay who worked beside me was a fucking idiot. People who contributed little to nothing to the mission, and took up space and time that would have been better used by someone with some sense.
Based on that kind of experience - yeah - I found it easy to believe that some confused fuckwad queer sailor had caused the explosion.
But - there isn't even any evidence that the man was gay, is there?
Hmmmm . . . food for thought.
https://www.hbmpodcast.com/podcast/hbm036-throw-it-in-the-ocean-explicit [hbmpodcast.com]
Listen to Petty Officer Chase's account of the day - I'm listening right now.
I did a separate search, trying to learn if Hartwig was gay, or not. First the Navy said he was gay, then the Navy said there was no evidence that he was gay. But, the atmosphere was already poisoned by the first statement. Those statements made by individuals read as contrived bullshit. AFTER being told by the Navy that some queer had killed almost fifty of your shipmates, an interviewer asks you questions? I can almost feel some of the interviewees trying to adjust to information that conflicted with their perceptions. It's just all contrived.
This guy says that Hartwig was NOT gay - https://www.salon.com/1999/08/18/navy/ [salon.com] Two problems with his version of events: he offers no evidence that Hartwig was heterosexual. He produces no ex-lovers, or anything. Second, he seems to be ignorant of any powder experiments, and that detracts from his credibility on the subject.
Ehhh - apparently, no brass was damaged. The Navy is happy. A few dead enlisted men, more or less, shouldn't cause an officer's career to founder, should it? (that last is sarcasm)
(Score: 2, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 24 2017, @07:05PM (1 child)
So that's why gay men bother you so much. I was wondering where the hell that stick up your ass came from; turns out it's a main mast. Your past and your psychological scars come out here in the weirdest ways...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @11:30PM
You're a sick little girl, but you know that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @09:11PM
"I guess age works the same ways with gays" lolololol
Oh man Runaway, that is precious.