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England's National Health Service is urging parents to get their children vaccinated for the flu ahead of the holiday season to protect grandparents and other vulnerable relatives:
Flu vaccines administered through a nasal spray rather than an injection have been rolled out this autumn for two and three-year-olds, and children in reception class and years one to four in primary school. Children are super-spreaders because of the greater likelihood of them contracting flu at nursery or school, where germs are passed on at a rapid rate. But only 18% of school-age children have had the nasal spray immunisation, according to the latest figures.
Prof Keith Willett, NHS England's medical director for acute care, said: "Flu can be spread more easily by children, especially to vulnerable relatives such as older grandparents, those with heart or lung conditions and pregnant family members. Last year, millions of people missed out on their free vaccination and yet it's one simple, common sense step to help us all stay healthy this winter."
With less than a month until Christmas, the NHS is urging parents to book their children in for the free vaccination to help curb infection over the festive season, when family get-togethers can spread the infection.
Meanwhile, the Daily Mirror (a tabloid) claims that Russian agents are spreading anti-vaccination propaganda in the UK in an effort to destabilize the country:
Russian cyber units are spreading false information about flu and measles jabs in the UK, experts warn. [Ed's Note: The current flu immunisation is applied via a nasal spray - there are no 'jabs' involved.] Vladimir Putin is believed to want to erode trust in US and European governments. The state-sponsored units are spreading the lies on social media to destabilise Britain, it is claimed. The Kremlin has previously been accused of attempting to influence Brexit and Scottish independence. Now, it is feared it is trying to create distrust over flu jabs and the MMR measles vaccine.
[...] Security services are so concerned over the threat to public health and security that Government departments have been ordered to monitor social media and flag up risky articles. Health chiefs have had emergency meetings over the spread "fake news" over vaccination campaigns. [...] We can reveal public health officials are investigating whether an outbreak of measles last week in Liverpool and Leeds was fuelled by parents not vaccinating children due to "false information read on the internet".
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(Score: 3, Informative) by Megahard on Monday November 27 2017, @09:32PM (12 children)
Odds of dying from influenza: 1 in 70
Odds of dying from a foreign terrorist: 1 in 45000
http://www.businessinsider.com/death-risk-statistics-terrorism-disease-accidents-2017-1 [businessinsider.com]
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Entropy on Monday November 27 2017, @10:16PM (11 children)
You seriously believe it's 1 in 70 chance of death from the flu? With 326M people in the US, that's about 4.65M deaths from the flu. How about--No. Of course statistics are quite open to manipulation. You can do things like lump pneumonia in with the flu to make the flu statistic seem higher which is exactly what the article you cited did. There many, many a few cause of death by Pneumonia such as cancer(especially lung cancer), fungal infections, etc.
http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/cdc-inflates-flu-death-stats-to-sell-more-flu-vaccines/ [healthimpactnews.com] - CDC inflates flu statistics in order to keep the flu vaccine money machine rolling.
"According to the National Vital Statistics System in the U.S., for example, annual flu deaths in 2010 amounted to just 500 per year — fewer than deaths from ulcers (2,977), hernias (1,832) and pregnancy and childbirth (825), and a far cry from the big killers such as heart disease (597,689) and cancers (574,743)."
And yes, I agree the odds of dying from a terrorist attack in the united states are quite low. Why? Because we haven't allowed mass migration like France/UK/Germany. Over there suicide bombings and other terrorist attacks are becoming a common occurance whereas over here it's quite rare. Before the "immigrant" crisis ? Terrorist attacks were not really a concern there either.
(Score: 5, Informative) by maxwell demon on Monday November 27 2017, @10:35PM (3 children)
I live in Germany; I should have noticed if suicide bombings and other terrorist attacks by immigrants were becoming a common occurrence.
The only thing that seems to somewhat rise is domestic right-wing extremist violence.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 27 2017, @10:53PM
There ya go, ruining the narrative again! For shaaaame
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @06:59AM (1 child)
Your media purposely avoids covering terrorist attacks. Some can't be hidden, so they get covered, but little minor ones (the most common) don't get coverage.
Your media purposely avoids covering the high levels of violence, particularly rape, committed by the non-European Islamic migrants.
Your media latches onto anything that could be considered "domestic right-wing extremist violence". Any little thing gets lots of coverage. It's really disproportionate.
There are many reasons for this. Culturally, it is no longer acceptable to be proud of your own country. There is video, astonishing to Americans, of your prime minister being handed a flag and then disrespectfully disposing of it as quickly as possible. She doesn't want to be seen with it! You don't have freedom of speech. If you dare to say the "wrong" thing about migrants or muslims, you get put in prison. Normal people will self-censor. Normal people won't take even a small chance of going to prison, so they don't even say many things that are perfectly legal. Your government is busy fighting facebook to get all anti-migrant and anti-islam and pro-german comments blocked, allowing for zero failures. You simply aren't allowed to see alternative viewpoints. They treat you like a small child.
(Score: 3, Informative) by maxwell demon on Tuesday November 28 2017, @08:11AM
Just for the record: We don't have a prime minister. Which highlights how "well informed" you actually are about Germany.
The only thing that is true is that many Germans have a problem with the concept of being proud of your country. This has good reasons, as this has been abused in the past (and is abused in lots of countries, including the USA, although generally to a lesser degree). However you don't get into prison for saying the "wrong" thing about migrants or Muslims (otherwise there would be lots of publicly very visible figures already in prison).
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 4, Informative) by frojack on Tuesday November 28 2017, @01:49AM (4 children)
You messed up here. Do you see your mistake.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 2, Disagree) by Entropy on Tuesday November 28 2017, @03:36AM (2 children)
That website took pneumonia deaths(from stuff like lung cancer) and then added on flu deaths and made the 1 in 70 statistic. That's like taking deaths from cancer and adding on people that are impaled by pogo sticks.. Then saying your chance of dying from pogo stick impalement is 1 in 70. It's more like 500 deaths per year to Flu. Sure, it happens, but so to pogo stick impalements: It doesn't mean it's something to worry about.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 28 2017, @06:52AM (1 child)
The freaking CDC has pages and pages on such topics, all fully sourced - why do you remain willfully ignorant?
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @07:32AM
Take my father-in-law for example.................
The real cause: he lived on fast food with lots of soda and he mostly sat on his fat ass
That led to: obesity and edema, then being sent home from a hospital with persistent weakness and possibly infection, then hallucination due to infection
The death certificate: has almost none of that, with the death being listed as a heart failure
Take my uncle for example.................
The real cause: buttfucking
That led to: HIV, AIDS, etc.
The death certificate: pneumonia
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @08:57AM
And not all 326 million people are going to get hit by a terrorist attack. So for the numbers to be comparable, that would mean that only 1 in 45000 people hit by a terrorist attack is going to die from it. In which case, terrorists are doing a really bad job. That's about 1% of a dead person from blowing up a Boing 747.
Which makes even less sense.
Which gets us to the last option: That the numbers are not comparable, which weakens the pro-vaxxer argument. I'm not surprised that the anti-vaxxer side seems to be winning, when the pro-vaxxers are giving them all the ammo they need.
(Score: 4, Informative) by khallow on Tuesday November 28 2017, @03:48AM (1 child)
You're doing it wrong. Here's how it works [medicalnewstoday.com]:
Keep in mind the usual caveats for 5 digit precision here. These numbers are probably off a few percent just due to errors in reporting and classification.
The numbers of deaths attributed to influenza above are a bit lower than 1 in 70, but not greatly so. And some years, influenza exceeds 1 in 70 deaths (highest annual toll was 48,614 deaths for 2003-2004, deaths in 2004 were 2,397,615 so about 1 in 50 deaths for that year).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @10:35AM
That's actually pretty good. So in US you are as likely to die from flu in your life, as you are from getting shot or killed in a car crash because some drunk went through the red. Awesome.