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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday November 28 2017, @06:24AM   Printer-friendly
from the linux-nein dept.

Munich is ditching Linux in favor of Windows 10, at a cost of €49.3 million:

The Linux love affair of the German City of Munich, which decided to favor Linux in 2003, is finally over. The city has officially cleared the plan to bring back Windows 10 on about 29,000 PCs.

In 2003, when the city decided to switch to a Linux-based desktop called LiMux and other open source software, it showed that free software could be used on a large scale. However, things didn't turn out the way they were planned.

Coming back to the recent development, the politicians who supported the switch said that Windows 10 will make it easier to source compatible application and drivers, according to TechRepublic.

[...] Linux enthusiasts should also note that the city's IT Chief has previously said that any concrete technical reason doesn't back the move; it's all politics.

Also at Engadget.

Previously: No, Munich Isn't About To Ditch Free Software and Move Back to Windows
Munich Reveals Preliminary Costs for a 'Return' to Windows
Linux Champion Munich Takes Decisive Step Towards Returning to Windows


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @11:37AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @11:37AM (#602471)

    Wouldn't surprise me if M$ is offering fire sale prices for their junk once again to try to get Munich.
    (We'll just see what they have in mind for Windoze 11.)

    I figure that a huge chunk of that 49M will be for new hardware.
    As of 2013, Munich had 15,500 desktop boxes and they didn't have to buy any newer, more powerful boxes to run LiMux.

    The summary gives the new number as 29,000 desktops.
    At least 15,500 of those are old boxes, currently running LiMux quite happily, and will need to be replaced to get MICROS~1's bloatware going.
    Pretty sure Windoze device drivers would be a problem as well.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 29 2017, @12:53AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 29 2017, @12:53AM (#602757)

    Having actually managed and bought this sort of software before. Most of the cost is not the end user software. It is maintaining it. Getting a 'windows admin' is dead easy. In fact it is pretty cheap. Getting a linux admin who knows what they are doing? That takes care and work. Then on top of that they spun their own distro. Meaning even more work. They should have just used one of the standard distros.

    I called it when they moved away that they would be back. Well here we are. I call it that they will also switch again in the future.

    they didn't have to buy any newer, more powerful boxes
    That means their computers are probably coming up on 7+ years old. I have HW that I have babied and take care of that is way older. But in an IT environ like that shit gets abused. Nothing shows 'we dont give a fuck about you' than on your first day of work getting a 7+ year old hand me down laptop.

    My bet is their IT dept went on a huge binge of holier than thou and the users are done with that shit. It smells of a political play. One of which MS saw blood in the water and quickly took advantage of.

    Pretty sure Windoze
    What are you 13 and still living in 1998? Grow up. You can do better.

    MS has lost the datacenter. Why? Cost. The desktop? Not even close.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 29 2017, @01:51AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 29 2017, @01:51AM (#602775)

      Getting a linux admin who knows what they are doing? That takes care and work.

      ...and once you've got a guy who has been doing things via scripts his whole career, he's WAY more productive than the "cheap" Windoze admins who need a GUI to do things (40 point&click operations; rinse and repeat for the next box).

      "One Microsoft Way" is "penny wise and pound foolish".

      MS has lost the datacenter

      Yup.

      Windoze

      I enjoy noting how Redmond has not the slightest bit of creativity.
      ...in particular, in naming things.
      Windows, Word, Office, Money, .NET -- WTF??

      Big Pharma has been coming up with new and different names since the dawn of time:
      Advil, Tylenol, Paxil, Zoloft, Motrin, ...
      All uniquely Googleable.

      MSFT simply lacks any imagination.

      When you see me use the word "windows", it's unlikely to be capitalized and will be speaking of a rectangular thing that might appear on -my- screen.
      That hasn't included anything M$-related in a LONG time.

      [Has M$ lost] The desktop?

      The public school system of Brazil: 500,000 seats; All Linux and all FOSS.
      IBM, Inc.: 300,000 Linux seats
      Panasonic, Inc.: 300,000 Linux seats
      The gov't of Malaysia: All Linux and all FOSS.
      Gov't-owned boxes in the autonomous region of Extremadura in Spain: All Linux and all FOSS.
      Ernie Ball, Inc. since the BSA put them on TeeVee and called them thieves[1]: All Linux and all FOSS.
      It's entirely do-able.

      [1] Having a business that can be raided at any time for any reason by the Business Software Alliance (a M$ proxy) and have them assess huge fines for non-compliance with EULAs seems very stupid to me.
      Needing a fulltime guy to monitor EULA compliance is equally stupid.
      CEO Sterling Ball said the same thing back in 2000 and gave his IT guys till the end of the year to get that EULAware shit out the door.

      [This stuff in Munich] smells of a political play

      Very much so.

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