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posted by janrinok on Wednesday November 29 2017, @10:35PM   Printer-friendly
from the but-they-said-it-was-safe dept.

Science Mag reports that the active ingredient in Monsanto's Round-Up weed killer and similar products is perfectly, er, probably, um, maybe safe enough for another 5 years.

The commission's Standing Committee on Plants, Animals, Food and Feed (PAFF), made up of representatives from the commission's 28 member nations, couldn't agree on the length of a renewed license. PAFF initially proposed a 15-year renewal, then a 9-year renewal, and eventually settled on an 18-month extension.

Over the past 2 months, the committee again debated an extension, but no proposal secured the necessary "qualified majority" of PAFF members. But today [Nov 27] 18 countries voted in favor of a 5-year renewal, including Germany and three others that had abstained in the previous vote.

The case against glyphosate wasn't helped by the International Agency for Research on Cancer including it on its dubiously regarded Group 2A (probable carcinogens) along with Red Meat and Shift Work.

Stéphane Travert, agriculture minister of France (France voted for NO extension), sounded heroically determined on public radio when he proclaimed:

"These are 5 years during which we will work to search for alternatives, 5 years during which we will mobilize research and innovation so that tomorrow we can modify agricultural practices for our farmers and for the environment."


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  • (Score: 2, Troll) by jmorris on Wednesday November 29 2017, @11:24PM (6 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday November 29 2017, @11:24PM (#603242)

    So they aren't banning it before they have a replacement? That doesn't sound like the enlightened EU we all know and hate. But France seemed ready to ignore reality... but that has been French history since the Revolution in a one line meme, right?

    Hate on things all ya want, but everything in science and engineering involve tradeoffs and if this stuff is in the "as dangerous as red meat" group, and feeds millions who would otherwise starve, perhaps we can hold off until something can replace it that is better? I know, radical notion. Makes me a monster to even suggest discussing such a thing but whatever.

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  • (Score: 2) by Virindi on Thursday November 30 2017, @03:00AM

    by Virindi (3484) on Thursday November 30 2017, @03:00AM (#603257)

    No. Clearly red meat and shift work should also be banned.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Gaaark on Thursday November 30 2017, @03:09AM

    by Gaaark (41) on Thursday November 30 2017, @03:09AM (#603265) Journal

    Dangerous as red meat?

    Kills bees and other insects.
    Probably causes cancer (U.N)
    Is showing up in the water and food.

    "By 2016 there was a 100-fold increase from the late 1970s in the frequency of applications and volumes of glyphosate-based herbicides (GBHs) applied, with further increases expected in the future, partly in response to the global emergence and spread of glyphosate-resistant weeds.[5]:1" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate [wikipedia.org]

    Let's kill ourselves while transforming weeds into superweeds, like we've done with the superbugs resistant bacteria.

    You can avoid eating red meat: can I fuck Monsanto up the ass everytime I encounter their shit?

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday November 30 2017, @06:21AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 30 2017, @06:21AM (#603345) Journal

    (posting this after 5 hours of staying with this comment opened, I wonder how it'll go)

    and feeds millions who would otherwise starve

    Oh, wow. I reckon Australia is doomed, doomed I tell ya. No other than his sanctity jmorris, The Prophet, said so.

    You see, the first case of weed resistance to glyphosate in Australia happened in 1996 (that's more than 20 years ago, if you are intellectually lazy**). No less than 15 invasive weeds are now resistant to glyphosate here [glyphosateresistance.org.au], including one that invades [wa.gov.au] grain crops - wheat being the first or second agro export of Australia by value.
    But yeah, sure, be afraid, be very afraid, without glyphosate you'll die of hunger, so maybe you better to learn to eat those weeds with a side of glyphosate, no other solution exists.

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    ** (shite, a total disregard for anything that doesn't fit the narrative coming from The Prophet; and there are modders who swallow it hook, sinker and line. Clearly, there areintellectually lazies on this site).

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by pe1rxq on Thursday November 30 2017, @09:54AM

    by pe1rxq (844) on Thursday November 30 2017, @09:54AM (#603374) Homepage

    Waiting for a replacement is just an excuse.
    What usually happens after decisions like this is that everybody happily uses it for 5 more years. After that everyone starts complaining that there is no alternative and we need a few more years.

  • (Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Thursday November 30 2017, @08:11PM (1 child)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday November 30 2017, @08:11PM (#603621) Journal

    Makes me a monster jmorris to even suggest discussing such a thing but whatever.

    FTFY

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday December 02 2017, @05:51AM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday December 02 2017, @05:51AM (#604145) Journal

      jmorris monster: problem with monsters, they think they are normal. Take Polyphemus, he did not know he was a cyclops! Heck, if all you have ever had is one eye, everything looks, rather, flat. And then we might consider Medusa. Yes, she was a Gorgon, snakes for hair and all that, but she still thought she might attract some hot dudes. Do we see where this is going, my fellow soylentils (and proud I am to call all of you that)? Yes, jmorris does not realize that he is jmorris.

      And of course this replicates across so many conservative lines of thought, because there is so little thought with conservatives, and memes just blow them away, making them soft and wet targets for the alt-right operatives that have undertook to subvert the conservatives by appealing to racism and sexism and Jeff Sessionism. My Gawd, does this mean that Jeff Sessions does not realize he is Jeff Sessions? Mind blown. Conservative mind. Does not take much to blow it. A 14 year old is sufficient, according to some. But he would never see himself as a predatory pervert pedophile. Roy Moore is a devout Baptist! And that is different, how?

      So back to our original point: jmorris is a monster. Lives in his mother's lake, close by Hrothgar's Hall. Had his arm ripped off by the Hero Beowulf Cluster! Jmorris, time to admit, you are are monster of the prior ages, something that schleps toward Bethlehem, but is already dead. In fact, the Republican party is dead. Conservativism as a political philosophy is dead. And thus jmorris is a monster, like Grendal, having outlived his own time, pulling for reactionary policies that are just not going to happen: a monster.

      Own it, jmorris, this is what you are, and you are nothing but this. May Buddha have mercy on your soul. But Buddha doesn't believe in souls.