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President Trump's former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, pleaded guilty on Friday to lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with the Russian ambassador last December during the presidential transition, bringing the special counsel's investigation into the president's inner circle.
Mr. Flynn, who appeared in federal court in Washington, acknowledged that he was cooperating with the investigation by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, into Russian interference in the 2016 election. His plea agreement suggests that Mr. Flynn provided information to prosecutors, which may help advance the inquiry.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/politics/michael-flynn-guilty-russia-investigation.html
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Michael Flynn Pleads Guilty to Lying to the F.B.I.
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(Score: 2, Interesting) by Knowledge Troll on Saturday December 02 2017, @07:15PM (4 children)
I'm hoping that the investigation is going to lead to the entire results of the election being called into question and it being invalidated. There might not be precedent for it but that doesn't mean we aren't ripe for a nice constitutional crisis. I agree removing Trump and getting Pence is bad and it would take a while of following the line of succession before I'd like the replacement.
I've been told this is essentially calling for a coup but my argument is that if the election was influenced by external actors and illegally so with the knowledge, consent, and possibly even direction of the campaign that won we have found the true coup.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 02 2017, @10:37PM
GUYS, BERNIE CAN STILL WIN!!!
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Saturday December 02 2017, @11:25PM
Is there actually any law that can be used to call into question the election if it was "influenced" by external actors?
After all, what do you consider campaign advertisements to be? They're attempting to influence voters, and they frequently use lies and half-truths. Are they somehow OK just because they're paid for by politicians (or these days, their PACs), and somehow Russian propaganda is "bad" because it's not American-made? That seems pretty ridiculous to me.
The voters were exposed to lots of information, some true, some not so much, just like they have been in EVERY election. All political advertising is propaganda after all, plus we have freedom of speech here. The voters made their decision and cast their votes, and there's no evidence I've heard of that the actual voting results were tampered with.
I'm sorry, I don't see how Russia being involved would change anything at all. Direct collusion between politicians and Russia would definitely look bad, and may even be illegal somehow, but I don't see how this can invalidate the election.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 03 2017, @03:24AM (1 child)
The senate election in New Hampshire was influenced by external actors (Massachusetts residents) and illegally so with the knowledge, consent, and possibly even direction of the campaign that won.
You have a stolen senate seat.
There are also external actors illegally in California, giving an extra 10 electoral votes to that state. To use your favored wording, this disenfranchises people elsewhere. Other states have the problem too, generally blue states. Based on this alone, the 2012 election was likely won via the presence external actors illegally here with the knowledge, consent, and possibly even direction of the campaign that won.
Using a low estimate, 800,000 of those illegal aliens voted. That is enough to throw many states, obviously including Florida in 2012.
You stole a presidential term.
So, um, what do you propose to do about those?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 03 2017, @05:26AM
> Using a low estimate, 800,000 of those illegal aliens voted. That is enough to throw many states, obviously including Florida in 2012.
Oh for the love of... Do you have any facts, any facts at all, to support this idiotic allegation? If there were any, Republicans, who currently have an iron grip on the entire federal government and have been screaming "voter fraud" for decades, would've been all over that.