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posted by martyb on Friday December 08 2017, @05:24PM   Printer-friendly
from the don't-walk-barefoot dept.

San Diego continues to face a hepatitis A outbreak:

Like other major cities all along the West Coast, San Diego is struggling with a homeless crisis. In a place that bills itself as "America's Finest City," spiraling real estate values have contributed to spiraling homelessness, leaving more than 3,200 people living on the streets or in their cars.

Most alarmingly, the deplorable sanitary conditions help spread a liver-damaging virus that lives in fæces, contributing to the deadliest U.S. hepatitis A epidemic in 20 years. "Some of the most vulnerable are dying in the streets in one of the most desirable and livable regions in America," a San Diego County grand jury wrote in its report in June — reiterating recommendations it gave the city over the past decade to address homelessness.

San Diego has struggled to do that. Two years ago, Mayor Kevin Faulconer closed a downtown tent shelter that operated for 29 years during winter months. He promised a "game changer" — a new, permanent facility with services to funnel people to housing. But it wasn't enough. The result? Legions of Californians without shelter. A spreading contagion. And an extraordinary challenge to the city's sunny identity that threatens its key tourism industry.

Previously: San Diego Declares Emergency Due to Outbreak of Hepatitis A
San Diego Power-Washing Streets to Fight Hepatitis A Outbreak


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Sulla on Friday December 08 2017, @09:43PM (6 children)

    by Sulla (5173) on Friday December 08 2017, @09:43PM (#607450) Journal

    You don't know a lot of hunters, fisherman, or farmers, then. Conservation to them is the same conversation as put forth by Theodore Roosevelt in how we must protect what we have so we can continue to exploit it forever. Hunters and fishermen know that you can't thin the herd too much or you have worse hunting/fishing in the next year. Farmers know that bad care of the land leads to reduced crop and livestock yields. It would not be difficult to bring these folks into the environmentalist side if the environmentalists would stop demonizing them.

    There are changes that hunters and fisherman could make to the way they exist that they would probably accept if sold to them correctly. By cutting back here and there they extend the live of the asset by X and leave space for their kids to hunt. That can be a pretty good sell, the problem comes in when environmentalists are unwilling to accept anything except "stop fishing and hunting you murderers". The left is just as much to blame as the right in this area. For farming the case is similar. There are different things they could do to extend the life of their land or reduce the water usage, but the left needs to understand that the continuation of farming is a necessity and the cure can not be replacing the farmer. The farmer needs to be able to eat, so telling them "well you can't do x" won't work unless there is a way for them to continue to get by.

    Most people are open to working with you but when you start by telling them they are evil they will completely shut down to any suggestions you have. A lot of the arguments for stopping global warming come down to completely changing their way of life to where they don't see it as possible, can't negotiate from there. You want them to not use a truck? Invent a machine that fits the same role and does not lose any capabilities or causes minimal losses to productivity. You want them to not grow a certain crop? Find a different crop that makes close to the same amount of money per work put in. Telling a liberal to bike to work because they live in town is a lot easier than telling a guy in the country to move to town or sell his truck and rent one when he needs to move something.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by realDonaldTrump on Friday December 08 2017, @11:03PM

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday December 08 2017, @11:03PM (#607493) Homepage Journal

    We have too many regulations. I'm doing the largest cut by far, in terms of regulation, that this world has ever known. For every new regulation my guys make, they have to knock out two old ones. If there's a new regulation, they have to knock out two.

    Let me tell you, we have beautiful savannah in the USA. In Georgia we have the most amazing savannah you've ever seen in your life. Not far from Hilton Head. We could be having big game safaris, the hunting. With elephants, zebras, giraffes, all of those animals our hunters are going to Africa for. Going to Zimbabwe, going to Nambia. My sons and many hunters. My sons are great hunters (not Barron). I don't do that. I like golf. They could be going to Georgia. Hunting in Georgia, great for our economy. But they can't because of FEDERAL OVERREACH. But I'm fixing it, believe me, I'm fixing it. And I'll leave it up to the states. But I'd love to open a Trump hotel in Hilton Head. Where I held one of my biggest rallies. #TRUMP2020 #MAGA 🇺🇸

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday December 08 2017, @11:39PM (3 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 08 2017, @11:39PM (#607509) Journal

    You don't know a lot of hunters, fisherman, or farmers, then. Conservation to them is the same conversation as put forth by Theodore Roosevelt in how we must protect what we have so we can continue to exploit it forever

    But it takes only relatively few "recreational hunters"** to wreck havoc [wikipedia.org].

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    People who don't need to hunt for their everyday life, e.g. a dentist [wikipedia.org]

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    • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Saturday December 09 2017, @04:00AM (1 child)

      by Sulla (5173) on Saturday December 09 2017, @04:00AM (#607605) Journal

      Hm good point, maybe we should stop the small group of people from doing something they don't need to do because it destroys everything around them. For example, the homeless from shitting on the sidewalk.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday December 09 2017, @07:20AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 09 2017, @07:20AM (#607641) Journal

        Hm good point, maybe we should stop the small group of people from doing something they don't need to do because it destroys everything around them. For example, the homeless from shitting on the sidewalk.

        There are so many solutions:
        - stop them being a small group of people - eg (join them and) make the group large
        - stop them being a group at all
        - stop them being people at all
        - stop them being homeless
        - stop them shitting at all
        - stop the shitting on sidewalk
        Which particular solution you have in mind?

        (grin)

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    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday December 11 2017, @05:47PM

      by Freeman (732) on Monday December 11 2017, @05:47PM (#608346) Journal

      I'm pretty sure there's a good line between Kill Everything and Kill Nothing. Part of the problem with kill nothing, is that most of the predators (wolves/coyotes) have been pushed out of large swathes of the country. In a pristine America, the deer population was mostly controlled by the predators. Due to Human expansion into the natural habitat, predators have been killed / pushed out of that environment. So, now you have an uncontrolled population of herbivores who don't mind eating everything in sight. At least in some areas, others allow for hunting. You've already pointed out the "problem" with kill everything.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 09 2017, @11:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 09 2017, @11:43PM (#607836)

    You don't know a lot of hunters, fisherman, or farmers, then. Conservation to them is the same conversation as put forth by Theodore Roosevelt . . . . Hunters and fishermen know that you can't thin the herd too much or you have worse hunting/fishing in the next year. . . . It would not be difficult to bring these folks into the environmentalist side if the environmentalists would stop demonizing them.

    Let me get this straight, just because Satan likes to hunt and fish, we should stop demon-izing him? The Prince of Darkness could be a political ally? Hmm. You wrongly infer that liberals and conservationists do not know a lot of hunters and fishers, and outdoors people. Many of them are those things themselves. But you also wrongly infer that all rednecks are hunters and fisherpersons? No, they are assholes, idiots, litterers, racists, and misogynists, or in a word, Republican. (Hi, Sen. Judge Roy Moore! And Ted Nugent!) The probably hunt because they enjoy killing, have very small manhood, or just revel in destruction and are afraid of animals. In other words, demons. So, please, explain why we should stop demon-izing demons? I mean, if you can't demon-ize demons, who can you demonize?