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posted by martyb on Tuesday December 12 2017, @12:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the spread-the-word dept.

[Ed note: Some important context for this submission appears in this c|net article: Internet sites to protest Trump Admin's net neutrality plan

A group of activists and websites including Imgur, Mozilla, Pinterest, Reddit, GitHub, Etsy, BitTorrent and Pornhub are planning a campaign Tuesday to draw attention to an upcoming FCC vote that could radically reshape the way the internet works.

[...] Tuesday's campaign is the latest effort by activists to dissuade the FCC from repealing Obama-era rules that effectively classified internet service providers as utilities. The classification, known as Title II, forced companies like Verizon, AT&T and Comcast to treat all internet traffic equally. Last week, protesters marched outside Verizon stores around the US.

Earlier, a handful of tech trailblazers -- including Vint Cerf, a founding figure of the internet Steve Wozniak, a co-founder of Apple; and Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of the World Wide Web -- posted an open letter on Tumblr criticizing the proposed repeal of net neutrality.

"The FCC's rushed and technically incorrect proposed order to abolish net neutrality protections without any replacement is an imminent threat to the Internet we worked so hard to create," the letter said. "It should be stopped."

Imagine if all sites defaulted to, say, dial-up or ISDN speeds unless they paid extra for full-speed internet. The large, incumbent sites on the net could easily absorb such costs. Smaller, new, or niche sites (such as SoylentNews) could not afford to pay for faster access. If this is not what you want, then contact the FCC and/or your elected representatives and let your view be heard.]

takyon writes:

Ajit Pai jokes with Verizon exec about him being a "puppet" FCC chair

On Thursday night in Washington, DC, net neutrality advocates gathered outside the annual Federal Communications Commission Chairman's Dinner to protest Chairman Ajit Pai's impending rollback of net neutrality rules.

Inside the dinner (also known as the "telecom prom") at the Washington Hilton, Pai entertained the audience with jokes about him being a puppet installed by Verizon to lead the FCC.

Pai was a Verizon associate general counsel from 2001 to 2003, and next week he will lead an FCC vote to eliminate net neutrality rules—just as Verizon and other ISPs have asked him to.

At the dinner, Pai played a satirical video that showed him planning his ascension to the FCC chairmanship with a Verizon executive in 2003. The Verizon executive was apparently Kathleen Grillo, a senior VP and deputy general counsel in the company's public policy and government affairs division.

The speech was apparently not supposed to be public, but Gizmodo obtained footage of Pai's remarks and the skit. You can watch it here.

The vote is currently scheduled for Thursday, Dec. 14. The FCC and Federal Trade Commission announced that they will work together to punish ISPs that don't keep their promises (assuming they make any).

Previously: Washington DC Braces for Net Neutrality Protests Later This Month
FCC Plans December Vote to Kill Net Neutrality Rules
FCC Will Reveal Vote to Repeal Net Neutrality This Week
Comcast Hints at Plans for Paid Fast Lanes after Net Neutrality Repeal
More than a Million Pro-Repeal Net Neutrality Comments were Likely Faked


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by WizardFusion on Tuesday December 12 2017, @01:05PM (20 children)

    by WizardFusion (498) on Tuesday December 12 2017, @01:05PM (#608708) Journal

    ...could radically reshape the way the internet works.

    Only in the US. The rest of the modern world already have net-neutrality ingrained in law and can't be changed.

    It's only in the US where your system is so fucked, you might as well nuke it from orbit and start again.

    "Land of the free". Don't make to laugh.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 12 2017, @01:27PM (14 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday December 12 2017, @01:27PM (#608711) Homepage Journal

    Going by nations that actually have net neutrality installed in law, you have a strange definition of "the modern world".

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 12 2017, @07:19PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 12 2017, @07:19PM (#608874)

      You don't think the countries in the EU are "the modern world?" WizardFusion's definition of "the modern world" seems perfectly normal to me. Perhaps you should turn off Faux News before it rots what little of your brain is left.

      • (Score: 1, TouchĂ©) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 12 2017, @08:03PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 12 2017, @08:03PM (#608889)

        I think TMB has managed to effectively turn his brain into wetware, it now operates on strict function calls and static globals: GLOBAL Taxes = 'theft', etc.

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 12 2017, @10:55PM

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday December 12 2017, @10:55PM (#608995) Homepage Journal

        WizardFusion's definition of "the modern world" seems perfectly normal to me.

        It would. There are nearly two hundred countries in the actual modern world and you're basing your definition on a dozen or so. You don't see a problem with that?

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Thexalon on Tuesday December 12 2017, @09:20PM (10 children)

      by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday December 12 2017, @09:20PM (#608934)

      Something tells me you've never been to Europe. Because Europeans live with more modern conveniences than most US citizens.

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      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 12 2017, @11:01PM (7 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday December 12 2017, @11:01PM (#608998) Homepage Journal

        Oh, we're going by "stuff and things" rather than respect for and protection of fundamental human rights? Call me old fashioned then.

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by Thexalon on Wednesday December 13 2017, @03:18AM (3 children)

          by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday December 13 2017, @03:18AM (#609066)

          The EU Conventions on Human Rights actually protect a number of rights that the Bill of Rights doesn't. For instance, member governments cannot execute anybody. Of course, that goes the other way too: I'm guessing the one you're upset about is that there's no constitutional right to carry guns, but the flip side of that is that you usually don't have any reason to in Europe because few other people are packing heat, and the Europeans generally consider the US to be a bit backwards precisely because so many are carrying guns.

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          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday December 13 2017, @03:45AM (2 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday December 13 2017, @03:45AM (#609070) Homepage Journal

            I was actually thinking speech but yes, Europe has an exceedingly long history of disarming its populace for the express purpose of making them easier to subjugate.

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            • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday December 13 2017, @07:26PM (1 child)

              by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday December 13 2017, @07:26PM (#609328)

              Article 10 of the EU Convention on Human Rights specifically grants the freedom of speech and expression.

              What you're probably thinking of is the German efforts to make the Nazi Party and Nazi symbolism illegal. Even in that case, you're allowed to express the viewpoint that, say, all Jews should be murdered, you simply can't call yourself a national socialist or the SA nor be waving around swastikas and wearing brown shirts with armbands and such.

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              • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday December 13 2017, @07:56PM

                by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday December 13 2017, @07:56PM (#609336) Homepage Journal

                I was actually thinking of "hate speech" laws in particular but they're not even close to the only exception. And the EU has only even been a thing for a fairly short time. How many more exceptions will be carved out in the next fifty years, even without the inevitable ramp-up in the use of the obviously designed-to-abuse term "hate speech"? Face it, you have no free speech.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 13 2017, @09:27AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 13 2017, @09:27AM (#609157)

          respect for and protection of fundamental human rights

          You are arguing against the US and for Europe here right? I've seen many USians complain about their constitution being violated and not worth much anymore, next to that you have things like Guantanamo.
          You know all those weapons that are banned for war? That's usually after the US has used them and the rest of the world slaps some sense into the US about how inhumane those weapons are.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday December 13 2017, @11:51AM

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday December 13 2017, @11:51AM (#609185) Homepage Journal

            You are arguing against the US and for Europe here right?

            That was a joke, yes? Europe not only tells its subjects what they can say but then disarms them so they have no means of redress. They've been doing it for thousands of years with no signs of ever stopping.

            That's usually after the US has used them...

            I think you'll find that Germany is the primary culprit there. Isn't Germany in Europe?

            Even a shat-upon U.S. Constitution is better than what Europeans have. Except Poland. I'm mostly cool with Poland.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 13 2017, @10:23PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 13 2017, @10:23PM (#609440)

            "That's usually after the US has used them and the rest of the world slaps some sense into the US"

            whines some sense into us maybe. nobody's slapping shit, motherfucker.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 13 2017, @12:53AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 13 2017, @12:53AM (#609032)

        I'm calling bullshit. Your dwellings are rabbit hutches compared to our housing. Your cars are dinky, rattly things too, what we would consider someone's first car.

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday December 13 2017, @04:48PM

        by Freeman (732) on Wednesday December 13 2017, @04:48PM (#609262) Journal

        Ohh..., like having to pay to use the restroom?

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by stretch611 on Tuesday December 12 2017, @01:43PM (1 child)

    by stretch611 (6199) on Tuesday December 12 2017, @01:43PM (#608714)

    It's only in the US where your system is so fucked, you might as well nuke it from orbit and start again.

    tbh, we only need one nuke... It just needs to be aimed at Washington DC on the rare days that congress is in session.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Thexalon on Tuesday December 12 2017, @09:22PM

      by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday December 12 2017, @09:22PM (#608935)

      No, that's not what you need to destroy. Zombies can only be destroyed by attacking the head, and the head of that beast isn't in Washington DC, it's in the Hamptons and southern Connecticut.

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by turgid on Tuesday December 12 2017, @01:57PM

    by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 12 2017, @01:57PM (#608719) Journal

    But established corporations have a God-given right to bleed everyone else dry otherwise COMMIES!!!!!!!

  • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 12 2017, @02:22PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 12 2017, @02:22PM (#608725)

    Proof?

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Gaaark on Tuesday December 12 2017, @10:40PM

    by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday December 12 2017, @10:40PM (#608988) Journal

    Unfortunately, Canada is becoming more American every day: we are fighting for net-neutrality at this moment....

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