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Policy analysts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta were told of the list of forbidden words at a meeting Thursday with senior CDC officials who oversee the budget, according to an analyst who took part in the 90-minute briefing. The forbidden words are "vulnerable," "entitlement," "diversity," "transgender," "fetus," "evidence-based" and "science-based."
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Anyone can make an omelet with eggs. The trick is to make one with none.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @05:32AM (31 children)
vulnerable: Unbiased stuff virtually never uses this word. The presence of the word suggests a liberal mindset.
entitlement: Unless preceded by something like "costly", this is liberal stuff.
diversity: Normally this has an absurd Orwellian definition. If a group of 5 people has 1 white person, you gain more diversity by eliminating the white person. It's more liberal junk.
transgender: Unless the CDC is studying environmental toxins (like phytoestrogens in soy milk for example) that could cause this, there is no justification for the CDC to have anything to do with it.
fetus: This purposeful use of a coldly-clinical latin term is designed to dehumanize unborn children.
evidence-based, science-based: These should be taken as a given for the CDC. Specifically using the terms is a snipe at the right. The terms are also used to wrongly claim legitimacy for things that are not in fact justified by science or evidence, like... is it 72 genders now? More?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @08:07AM (1 child)
Let's start burning books containing these words next to Make America Great Again!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @02:28PM
You'll be hard pressed to find a science text containing even two of the listed words at once. And political drivel belongs in a stove all right. Making people warm is much better, than making them crazy.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @08:35AM (11 children)
You need to get fucked by the horse you rode in on. One of the mosst horrible things I've seen over my life has been the progressive rape of language by the (predominantly christian in name) neo-cons. Clear language is what those dirty commoners use to equalize the battle. Can't have them communicating clearly or in depth.
Vulnerable: some readily identifiable groups have higher subsceptibility to various epidemics, and/or respond in consistently worse ways to "standard" treatment. The word exists for a reason, and it's hard to corrupt. Better ban it.
Entitlement: I'm giving this a small bit of personal space, because there are some hornets in the American language that even I am unwilling to stir up. Much. Do you think you're entitled to call the police? Or stop signs? Or an insurance payout if you get hit by a car? Hint: you are.
Diversity: did you know that a heart attack presents different symptoms in men and women? Or that treatment afterwards can vary depending on your race? Most white male doctors don't, and that's not changing any time soon because doctors are, for the most part, trained by and for white men. Maybe if medical organizations were not a boring monoculture this would change.
Transgender: guess what, they are at higer risk for a whole barrel of diseases, and half of that results from social attitudes such as yours. Go die in a fire, by the way.
Fetus: are epidemiologists supposed to stop talking about zika? Or possibly safer methods of abortion? Again, go die in a fire.
Evidence/science based: You're just grasping at straws now. Except you're punching the rest of us in the face first. I direct you to this classic [teenvogue.com]: "Don't use science to justify your bigotry. The world is way too weird for that shit."
Go, tell the Reagan Foundation that you tried. And failed. You wers stopped in your tracks by a drunken fool who couls still see rgiht through yoru lies.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @09:01AM (2 children)
Zika is a virus that causes brain damage, particularly in unborn children.
See? That works great. It's perfect, unless you are trying to dehumanize little kids so that your conscience doesn't bother you when you kill them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @11:58AM (1 child)
Fetus is a term of science that applies to all gestating animals. So the CDC is going to start calling fetal pigs unborn pigs too in order to avoid dehumanizing pigs?
PS The Unborn sounds like the name of a horror movie.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 19 2017, @02:32AM
Don't worry though; we can start referring to them as fetal hominids so as to be more specific, and thus have higher quality writing.
Calling them unborn children would be foolish; childhood is a stage of development that begins after birth.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @09:23AM (4 children)
You think there is "progressive rape of language by the (predominantly christian in name) neo-cons. Clear language is what those dirty commoners use to equalize the battle. Can't have them communicating clearly or in depth."
OK, how about liberals trying to replace the correct legal term "illegal alien" with "undocumented immigrant"?
Don't you want clear language?
1. They are illegal. (our law says so)
2. They are aliens. (by dictionary: a noncitizen; owing political allegiance to another country or government; foreign; an outsider)
3. They are not undocumented. (They buy documents on the black market. They might be using YOUR documents.)
4. They are not immigrants. (according the the IRS: An alien who has been granted the right by the USCIS to reside permanently in the United States and to work without restrictions in the United States.)
If being "undocumented" is OK, then maybe I don't need a gun permit in California? I can be an undocumented gun owner. Maybe if I have sex with you without asking, I'll be be an undocumented spouse. If I wander about your house, I'm an undocumented resident. No, this is a load of nonsense.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @02:46PM
And you too can go burn in the very lake of fire you are terrified of ending up in when you finally kick the bucket.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @08:53PM (2 children)
Over-staying your visa isn't even a crime [procon.org] and entering the US illegally is just a misdemeanor.
And visa over-stays make up more than half of the total number of "illegal immigrants."? [washingtontimes.com]
So, unless you've been going around calling jaywalkers "illegal citizens" you are just a damn hypocrite.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @04:49AM (1 child)
Misdemeanors are illegal acts, you stupid fuck. You take the fact that a misdemeanor is LESS OF an illegal act than something like first degree murder, then try to make that less illegal act into legal? You are one STUPID motherfucker. Illegal aliens are breaking the law - THAT is what makes them "illegal aliens".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @11:40AM
And jaywalking is a misdemeanor. But you go ahead and spazz out all you want. Temper tantrums are the best way to prove U R the smartest person in the room.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @09:34AM
Yeah, there is a heart drug approved only for black people. Never mind that this gets interesting with the whole liberal idea that you can self-identify as whatever race you like.
Basically, the drug company abused statistics. Lots of drugs fail, and this one did too... until they only counted the black people who were studied. It then squeaked by, just barely passing.
The problem is how the statistics are being used. Specify a p-value that you like, so that there is only a tiny chance that the results are false. Do a trial, get good results, and everything is fine... probably. Say you have your p-value set for only a 1-in-1000 chance of false results. Hey, pretty sure it is a good drug! Oh, wait, you tried 5000 drugs. You're getting false results almost certainly. Worse yet, the drug company just sliced and diced the data until they got a result they could sell. They tried every way of dividing up the data until they lucked out and managed to pass the statistical requirement for selling the drug.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 17 2017, @08:43PM (1 child)
Funny - I haven't been seen by a male caucasian doctor since . . . . I think it was in 1985, when I had a work related accident in Chicago. I woke up in an ER, to see some white dude hovering over me, checking for signs of neuro problems. Since then, I've been seen by a white female doctor, a Vietnames male, a Peruvian male, and a Black male. I've had physicals for work by an Indian male doctor. That monoculture you mention seems to have melted away somewhere, sometime.
Oh, wait, to be fair, I've seen two male caucasian eye doctors - presumably hetero. A male caucasian delivered my first son. Another delivered my second son. Third son was a complicated birth, and an entire TEAM was involved in that - black, white, and Indian. Likewise, the nurses and orderlies present were a mixed bunch.
But, whatever. Keep telling yourself about that monoculture.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @09:49PM
“Fake news would tell you that we don’t care for mud people. I tell you all this because I’ve seen it also; I just want to set the record straight while they’re here. Some of of our doctors are mud people. We have very close friends who are mud people and we also fellowship with them.”
(Score: -1, Troll) by frojack on Sunday December 17 2017, @08:47AM (13 children)
Actually its a big lie.
http://www.pacificpundit.com/2017/12/16/fake-news-no-cdc-isnt-removing-words-like-fetus-or-evidence-based/ [pacificpundit.com]
HHS responds to reports of CDC banning words:
"The assertion that HHS has 'banned words' is a complete mischaracterization of discussions regarding the budget formulation process."
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by fritsd on Sunday December 17 2017, @10:27AM
I read your article, but unfortunately it didn't have a link to the CDC itself.
That looked like a blog, with interesting topics such as "left wing terrorism".
The PacificPundit article started with:
and there were two more lines of text, without much content (it was a rather short article).
Did you find a source from the CDC itself that disputed this "fake news"?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by RedBear on Sunday December 17 2017, @10:57AM (10 children)
You just posted a link to a site with a menu bar that reads:
How can anyone possibly take you seriously now? Also, the HHS "response" is not a denial, it's just BS doublespeak weasel words:
Whether it came directly from Trump or some layer of people under him is irrelevant. People working in a department of the government (HHS) under the Trump administration is telling the CDC to censor itself from using bog-standard common technical terms, presumably in order to increase their chances of getting grants funded under this administration. But who could be offended by technical, completely non-partisan terms like "transgender" or "evidence-based"? Only religious fundamentalist nutjobs.
If you believe in freedom of thought and expression you should have a huge problem with this.
¯\_ʕ◔.◔ʔ_/¯ LOL. I dunno. I'm just a bear.
... Peace out. Got bear stuff to do. 彡ʕ⌐■.■ʔ
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @02:43PM (8 children)
Problem is NOT the use of words to offend; acting offended by mere words is a left-wing game anyway.
Problem is the abuse of them to MISLEAD.
If you believe you have a worthwhile thougth to express, you should not have a huge problem with REPHRASING it.
Some words got tainted by constant abuse. Leaving them alone for some time, for the semantics to cool and lose the stink of politics, could be the best thing to do with them.
(Score: 5, Touché) by RedBear on Sunday December 17 2017, @03:16PM (3 children)
I'm sorry, your post was highly offensive.
If you believe you have a worthwhile thougth to express, you should not have a huge problem REPHRASING it without using any of the following prohibited words:
abuse
tainted
believe
constant
alone
semantics
best
problem
worthwhile
offended
huge
game
left-wing
words
Looking forward to your properly rephrased response.
If this seems completely ridiculous to you, congratulations. That was the point.
¯\_ʕ◔.◔ʔ_/¯ LOL. I dunno. I'm just a bear.
... Peace out. Got bear stuff to do. 彡ʕ⌐■.■ʔ
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @11:20PM (2 children)
I trust you're capable of running a synonymizer app on your very own.
Any assertion can be made to "seem completely ridiculous" by extensive word games, thanks for the demo.
Just the same way, any bullshit can be made to sound sciencey and convincing.
https://www.nature.com/news/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-papers-1.14763 [nature.com]
Prevention of both should be the point all right.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @12:03AM (1 child)
Waaaaah! I got owned and my ego is too fragile to just let it pass, so I had to post something, anything!
It doesn't matter if its total bullshit that reveals how much of a beta I really am, I'm still gonna do ieeeet!
Waaaaah!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @01:02AM
but carrying this much stupid with you, the road will surely be exhausting
(Score: 3, Insightful) by JNCF on Sunday December 17 2017, @04:27PM (1 child)
Nope, doublespeak is a bipartisan issue. Different words, same basic reactions. The Right even gets off on being offended by a lack of words, demanding that football players pledge allegiance to a flag. You're all pretty ridiculous.
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday December 17 2017, @11:22PM
The anthem, it's very important that NFL players always STAND for the playing of our National Anthem. We're paying them big money to respect our Flag and our Country! #StandForOurAnthem [twitter.com]🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/czutyGaMQV [t.co]
(Score: 4, Touché) by nitehawk214 on Sunday December 17 2017, @04:51PM (1 child)
Says the person offended by the words "evidence" and "science".
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @11:25PM
and it's from the likes of you the words "evidence" and "science" get a bad taint.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @08:12PM
If frojo had a motto, that would be it.
That weak-ass stephen miller wannabe has been full of bullshit for decades.
Nobody sane has taken him seriously since high school.
(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Sunday December 17 2017, @10:21PM
Actually, that's called a "backpedal". It's what you do when dumb shit blows up in your face.
https://www.statnews.com/2017/12/16/forbidden-words-fda-cdc/ [statnews.com]
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(Score: 2) by shortscreen on Sunday December 17 2017, @11:01AM
"entitlement" is the one that confuses me, because I thought this was the Repubs' preferred term for social spending. Aren't Paul Ryan and his ilk always on about entitlement reform? Why would they want to ban their own word?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @01:08AM (1 child)
That one has bounced between -1 and 4 at least.
Somebody... bothered by something? People don't get so upset about nonsense. Only an uncomfortable truth can do that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @01:21AM
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
You sounds a lot like those fox evangelicals who respond to any criticism with "jesus was persecuted too so I am righteous!"
Most times an asshole is just an asshole.