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posted by mrpg on Tuesday December 19 2017, @10:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the new-rules dept.

As reported by The Huffington Post:

New rules implemented on Twitter Monday have led to the suspensions of accounts belonging to prominent neo-Nazis, white nationalists and other far-right extremists.

[...] "You may not make specific threats of violence or wish for the serious physical harm, death, or disease of an individual or group of people," states Twitter's rule for "violent extremist groups," which went into effect Monday.

"This includes, but is not limited to, threatening or promoting terrorism," the rule continues. "You also may not affiliate with organizations that – whether by their own statements or activity both on and off the platform – use or promote violence against civilians to further their causes."

[...] The "alt-right ― a loose association of neo-Nazis, white nationalists, assorted racists, fascists, and other far-right elements that has used Twitter for years to organize and recruit ― anticipated today's "purge," with many preparing to make the jump to Gab, a largely rules-free micro-blogging platform used primarily by white nationalists.

Related: Twitter: Our Blue Check Marks Aren't Just About "Verification"


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 19 2017, @11:30PM (35 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 19 2017, @11:30PM (#612052)

    Try reporting the accounts. I wonder if a large portion of this lopsided behavior is simply that there is a larger community reporting on the alt-right and not so many reporting all the other violent/hateful accounts.

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 19 2017, @11:40PM (34 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 19 2017, @11:40PM (#612058)

    Why do you think that is, exactly?

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday December 20 2017, @12:03AM (4 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday December 20 2017, @12:03AM (#612069) Journal

      Why do you think that is, exactly?

      I think it's because the far right is much more violent than the far left.

      Antifa hasn't shot up any churches or schools lately...

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by Sulla on Wednesday December 20 2017, @02:21AM

        by Sulla (5173) on Wednesday December 20 2017, @02:21AM (#612116) Journal

        And the alt-right hasnt poured concrete on train tracks to derail and stop oil and gas shipments

        --
        Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by crafoo on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:21AM (2 children)

        by crafoo (6639) on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:21AM (#612146)

        So alt-right is anyone that does anything bad ever, that holds a view anything right of Antifa? How convenient.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @05:33AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @05:33AM (#612169)

          Why would that be, unless it is actually the case that everything the alt-right does, from supporting Trump, harassing actors and real estate agents on line, running over people with their penis-compensators, holding Naziesque torch-light rallies, and being generally anti-American, is in fact, bad? And the Antifa? Jew-Bears, if you ever have seen the movie, "Inglorious Bastards". Great to see what happens to a bully type white supremacist when they are threatened with violence IN RETURN: Cowards! Lily-livered panty-waists! Like this guy [youtube.com]. All fun and games until someone offers to actually punch you in the face. Cowards.

          • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @08:43AM

            by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday December 20 2017, @08:43AM (#612213) Journal

            None of those behaviors are exclusive to the alt-right. The alt-left does too, though not very much in the United States because the country has been purging true leftists at every level since the turn of the century. There are now almost none left here. You can easily think of alt-left people who have done those horrible things in other countries where leftist thought has been more successful and capturing power. The Red Guards during the Cultural Revolution are a fine example, as are the Khmer Rouge and their Killing Fields.

            The very mild leftist activity in the United States has been in the form of spiking timber in order to injure or kill loggers taking trees from old growth forest, and that sort of thing. So it's not quite saying "both sides do it," so much as "both sides would do it if they could." If the leftists had greater numbers or support in America, they probably would take bolder, harsher actions, because escalation is the what fuels the fire in politically extreme movements.

            --
            Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @12:15AM (24 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @12:15AM (#612075)

      Well, for example, you see organized, loud, temper-tantrum protests by the loony-left whenever speakers like Milo or Shapiro whenever they are scheduled to speak. All they are doing is giving different opinion and they often get silenced by the protesters. You don't the right protesting in the same degree when extreme left speakers come to talk.
      Same thing happens on the internet....someone tweets something that doesn't fit into the left-loony narrative, they swarm in and try to silence that posting.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @01:55AM (13 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @01:55AM (#612102)

        You don't the right protesting in the same degree when extreme left speakers come to talk.

        Why is that, do you think?

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:14AM (11 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:14AM (#612140) Journal

          The alt-right is more tolerant.

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:35AM (10 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:35AM (#612156)

            If they don't run you over with a "muscle" car from foreign manfacturer and kill you and then try not to take any responsibility. In other words, for severly negative values of "tolerant".

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @09:18AM (9 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 20 2017, @09:18AM (#612225) Journal

              You're running your mouth without engaging brain. Again. Just how many righties have killed people, as a political statement? I'll let you go back as far as you like, the only restrictions are, you stay in the US, and they have to have made some sort of political statement, before, during, or after their murders. Anything else is just simple freaking crime statistics. You can start with that Roof idiot - he clearly is a white supremacist, and he has made plenty of statements supporting the Nazi/ultraright point of view. You want to go ten years? 20? 50? No, you probably don't want to back very far, because all of the KKK were Democrats then, right?

              Start counting.

              • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @12:58PM (8 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @12:58PM (#612271)

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org]

                I won't even comment, Runaway. You're just almost completely wrong this time, instead of completely wrong.

                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:24PM (6 children)

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:24PM (#612346) Journal

                  White supremacists, 6 incidents.
                  Muslims, 16 incidents.
                  Lefty environmentalists, 2 incidents.
                  Anti-abortionists, 32 incidents.
                  Right wing extremism, 5 incidents.
                  Black supremacists, 8 incidents.
                  Palestinians, 6 incidents. (how is that separate from Muslims?)
                  Puerto Rican nationalism, 9 incidents.
                  Antisemitism, 5 incidents.
                  LEFT WING EXTREMISM, 16 INCIDENTS.

                  So, tell me, which of those do you wish to assign to the so-called alt-right? You know, in view of the fact that the Democrats and Progressives are always standing up in defense of Muslims, we might assign all of those to your side. The Palestinians, as well. But, let us keep this discussion within the realm of reason, and drop the worst of the rhetoric, alright?

                  Left wing extremism, 16
                  Environmentalists, 2
                  Blacks, 8
                  Antisemitism 5
                  ____________________________
                                                            31 incidents

                  Right wing nutters, 5
                  anti-abortionists, 32 (disclaimer, not all of them are "right wing", many are religious nuts, especially Catholics, who vote left - this is a RELIGIOUS issue, but I'll own the number anyway)
                  ______________________________
                                                            37 incidents

                  Now, I think I've been more than reasonable. I've accepted all the anti-abortionists on my side. And, I haven't forced you to take all the Moooslims on your side. And, your side STILL comes up with a close second, behind my side, for violence. You wanna bitch and whine about the numbers, I can always change my mind, go back, and assign things differently.

                  So. Where does that leave us? How about this: YOUR SIDE IS NO BETTER THAN MY SIDE!! Your left wing nutters are just as bad as my right wing nutters. But, that's what I've been saying all along. Me, and several other members on this site. We've been telling you that the left and the right are almost indistinguishable. Our European friends have been saying the same damned thing. There are left wing puppet masters, and there are right wing puppet masters, who work together to keep this country divided on stupid, bullshit issues, so that people like yourself can stay busy, as useful idiots.

                  Wake up, and smell the fucking coffee.

                  The alt-right is another imaginary boogeyman, and just like a credulous child, you listen to the boogeyman stories, then you're unable to sleep at night.

                  Now - you want to know what makes the right ring of this little circus more respectable than the left ring? The righties tend to execute the right-leaning fuckwits who act in their name. Firing squad, lethal injection, hanging, or just execute the bastards during capture.

                  The left ring? You honor your cock biting fuckwits. Where is Patty Hearst? Ted Turner? Jane Fonda? Bill Ayers? Kathy Boudin?

                  (parenthetically - checking some stuff for this post, I ran across the fact that JFK was assassinated only 8 weeks after MLK - never made that connection before)

                  So now, my empty headed little buddy - what do you make of all those numbers? Are you still going to insist that this boogeyman is more destructive, more hateful than your own saints? Come on, tell me what you REALLY think about all of this.

                  And, remember. YOU supplied the link, without even reading it, giving it no thought at all.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:38PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:38PM (#612353)

                    Wait, so anti-Semites are opposed to the Nazis now?

                    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:55PM (1 child)

                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:55PM (#612359) Journal

                      I think they flip-flopped (or "pivoted") about the same time the Democrats pivoted away from the KKK. Today, left-wingers want to boycott Israel, and label Israelis as fascists. The righties, on the other hand, have embraced Israel, because weapons and profit. Try to keep up. Your side owns anti-semitism now. Of course, that means nothing to the useful idiots, from either side. If you ask the typical anti-semitic person, he may believe that he's a righty, but, he's all yours.

                      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday December 20 2017, @10:23PM

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday December 20 2017, @10:23PM (#612587) Journal

                        This may surprise you, but anti-Zionism isn't anti-Semitism. On my father's side of the family are around half a dozen Jews who are staunchly anti-Zionist; they like the idea of emigrating the people of Israel to, say, the US southwest. And I think that makes a lot of sense, personally. Let the Muslims *have* the one chunk of land with no oil under it in the Middle East.

                        --
                        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @05:28PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @05:28PM (#612389)

                    The left ring? You honor your cock biting fuckwits.

                    As one Soylentil to another, Runaway, you're loosing it. Maybe time for a time out?

                    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @06:04PM (1 child)

                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 20 2017, @06:04PM (#612415) Journal

                      Losing it? Look at the names I listed. Look where they are today. (I think they are all still alive.) Then argue my statement. A leftist's reward for terrorism is money, fame, and fortune. You can't spin any of those assholes as anything other than terrorists.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @07:59PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @07:59PM (#612493)

                        OK, point taken, you've lost it. Best to simmer down before you embarrass yourself by further displaying your lack of knowledge and understanding.

                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:30PM

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:30PM (#612349) Journal

                  Why don't you read a short biographical sketch of Kathy Boudin, one of your side's heros. Seriuosly, read it. She's not easily defined. Don't call her a "child of the sixties". That is just to damned simplistic. She is a full fledged terrorist, the same breed of animal that runs ISIS. Read.
                  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/04/04/the-gory-details-about-terrorist-teacher-kathy-boudin/ [breitbart.com]

        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @08:46AM

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday December 20 2017, @08:46AM (#612214) Journal

          Because their numbers are few, I'd say. If they were more numerous, they'd feel they could escalate. It's in their interests with the numbers they have to come off as looking more calm and reasonable than their political opponents. That's why David Duke doesn't deliver his remarks with anger and a clenched fist, but with a soft voice and a smile.

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          Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @01:58AM (7 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @01:58AM (#612104)

        Well, for example, you see organized, loud, temper-tantrum protests

        But that is all it is and that is really all that it remains except for the direct actions of a select few members. You also see loud organized temper tantrums outside abortion clinics and planned parenthood facilities and most of us just keep right on walking rather than getting our panties in a knot about now I have to walk around these loony anti-choicers...

        • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:16AM (6 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:16AM (#612142) Journal

          the direct actions of a select few members.

          Ditto for this imagined alt-right. A select few members are shitheads, but the left has no problem painting half of society with their broad paintbrush of SJW justice.

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by crafoo on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:24AM (5 children)

            by crafoo (6639) on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:24AM (#612147)

            Members? Members of what? Stop talking about these things like their are two football teams. "A select few members are shitheads..." doesn't make sense when talking about either "side" or team or whatever. These people are our countrymen and neighbors. We disagree on a few key points. We are being labelled, compartmentalized, identified as "the other" and set on each other like trained dogs. Stop being so easily divided and conquered.

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:33AM (4 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:33AM (#612154) Journal

              I think I have tried to make that exact point - and my post above supports your view. There is no "alt-right". The term was made up by one right extremist, and latched onto by the left, and applied to fully half the population of this nation. Trump was elected by about 1/2 of the voting public, and all Trump supporters are now alt-right.

              And, that goes along with many of my other posts, in regards to Aristarchus. Every post, every submission, Aristarchus makes is meant to be divisive.

              • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @08:52AM (1 child)

                by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday December 20 2017, @08:52AM (#612217) Journal

                In Aristarchus's defense, he's freaked out by Trump's election and his rhetoric. A lot of people are, too. To me, it sounds very similar to the hysteria the right experienced with Obama and his rhetoric, particularly around immigration. The divisive effect of all of it is the same.

                That's why I'd agree with you in saying, gently, we're all better served by dropping the labels and putting more effort into surgical argumentation. If we do have to use labels, let's use them lightly and with measure.

                --
                Washington DC delenda est.
                • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @02:12PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @02:12PM (#612291)

                  Yeah, I remember all the rioting protesting that happened in conservative areas when Obama got elected. It was insane! People smashed up storefronts, set things on fire, and attacked police.

                  ...

                  Oh wait, no they didn't.

                  Because they had to go to work the next day.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @01:01PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @01:01PM (#612272)
                • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @03:51PM

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 20 2017, @03:51PM (#612336) Journal

                  "I'm Rachel . . . I'm an investigative reporter with the Southern Poverty Law Center. . . "

                  To hell with that. The SPLC hates white people as much as BLM or Antifa. They have lists of groups that they hate, many of which are simply irrational. I haven't time to watch Rachel babble.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @03:08AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @03:08AM (#612128)

        When a far-left person visits a far-right school: https://www.c-span.org/video/?328079-1/senator-bernie-sanders-i-vt-remarks-liberty-university [c-span.org]

        When a far-right person visits a far-left school: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3z_jqbLCz0 [youtube.com]

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:09AM (2 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 20 2017, @04:09AM (#612139) Journal

      Maybe the so-called alt-right is more tolerant?

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @06:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @06:02AM (#612180)

      Because the bigots spend so much time spewing hate they probably don't even think of reporting anything. It is hard to actually DO something, even clicking some buttons, when there is so much hate to spew. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the alt-fuckers deliberately don't report violations so that they can appear to be the poor persecuted martyrs. I always see ISIS mentioned when this topic comes up, "awww but they don't ban Antifa or ISIS accounts! Waaaah waaaaah waaaaaaaaaah."

      Pretty pathetic, do any of you have a backbone? Or are you all as spineless as that nazi fucker who literally cried when he was outed and people shunned him?