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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday December 26 2017, @09:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the they-should-be-as-unhappy-as-the-rest-of-us dept.

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Despite the many challenges faced by people in a same-sex relationship, a study made by two students of the University of Queensland concluded that this kind of relationship is happier compared to the normal relationship we know as male to female bond.

Researchers Francisco Perales and Janeen Baxter said that the conclusion of their study is a strong counter-narrative to the usual thinking that same-sex relationships are conflictual, unhappy, and dysfunctional.

The conclusion of the study, which was published in the academic journal Family Relations, was derived after the researchers surveyed 25,000 people in the United Kingdom and 9,000 others in Australia.

Source: https://www.inquisitr.com/4686457/a-new-study-concludes-that-gay-and-lesbian-couples-are-happier-compared-to-straight-couples/

Also at Francisco Perales, Janeen Baxter. Sexual Identity and Relationship Quality in Australia and the United Kingdom. Family Relations, 2017; DOI: 10.1111/fare.12293


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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by wonkey_monkey on Tuesday December 26 2017, @10:07PM (19 children)

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Tuesday December 26 2017, @10:07PM (#614467) Homepage

    Researchers Francisco Perales and Janeen Baxter said that the conclusion of their study is a strong counter-narrative to the usual thinking that same-sex relationships are conflictual, unhappy, and dysfunctional.

    I didn't know that was the usual thinking...

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Grishnakh on Tuesday December 26 2017, @10:45PM (5 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Tuesday December 26 2017, @10:45PM (#614477)

    Depends on who you ask. If you ask the conservative and religious types, they'll usually repeat this claim, because they're desperate to "preserve the sanctity of marriage" and thus they need to convince people that only monogamous, religious-based marriages can possibly make people happy.

    • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Tuesday December 26 2017, @10:59PM

      by linkdude64 (5482) on Tuesday December 26 2017, @10:59PM (#614483)

      Most of the time I never hear about personal happiness from those types, I hear about "right" and "wrong," "right" often being the more difficult option of the two.

    • (Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Tuesday December 26 2017, @11:52PM

      by wonkey_monkey (279) on Tuesday December 26 2017, @11:52PM (#614506) Homepage

      It says usual thinking. What you're talking about it doesn't involve any thinking.

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    • (Score: 2) by schad on Wednesday December 27 2017, @03:13AM (2 children)

      by schad (2398) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @03:13AM (#614575)

      I've asked. Religious types say things like "It's a sin" or "It's against God's plan" or "The Bible says that it's an outward sign of inner corruption" or whatever else. Conservatives usually talk about "traditional Judeo-Christian values," which is the same thing. But they'll also talk about "normalcy," which isn't quite the same thing; in that case, it's more about conforming to the prevailing social norms, which they view as essential for a healthy society.

      The closest I can get is to say that religious people tend to think that true happiness is impossible for nonbelievers. So a married gay couple would be unhappy, though of course so would a single gay person. They key trait is not having found (the "correct") God.

      Maybe the religious and conservative people I talk to are smarter than the ones you and the researchers talk to. I was inclined to believe that the researchers just lived in the fairly typical academic echo chamber where they are almost literally incapable of comprehending foreign perspectives. But if you've got some actual first-hand experience... maybe I'm just hanging out with the right sorts of people, entirely by mistake.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 27 2017, @04:07AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 27 2017, @04:07AM (#614602)

        A deeply flawed text.
        Hundreds of examples of self-contradictory nonsense.
        Bible Inconsistencies - Bible Contradictions [infidels.org]

        This stuff was known LONG ago.
        Self-Contradictions of the Bible -- William Henry Burr, 1819-1908 [google.com]

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      • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Wednesday December 27 2017, @05:09PM

        by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @05:09PM (#614791) Journal

        Religious types say things like...

        For certain values of religious types, yes. Others, no. Maybe you might also get an answer like, "for a nomadic people always on the razor's edge between existence and genocide it might make sense to prohibit sexual relationships which don't result in offspring. But six thousand years later it may matter much more that people learn to love one another no matter what their difference in lifestyle are, because the planet is filling up awfully fast and if we're to survive we must learn to get along." That may be a minority opinion, but it's the main one in the circles I travel in. Then again, we might not be what people expect of "religious types," either, even though we are religious....

        Then again, there are also religious people who completely believe the point of relationships isn't "happiness" at all. On both sides of belief of the morality of homosexuality/homosexual behavior, pro and con.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday December 27 2017, @01:25AM (12 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday December 27 2017, @01:25AM (#614535) Homepage Journal

    I expect it's at least partially because lesbians are quite a bit more likely to either be on the giving or receiving end of domestic violence. Kind of puts a lie to the rosy picture painted in this study.

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by aristarchus on Wednesday December 27 2017, @02:03AM (11 children)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @02:03AM (#614550) Journal

      I expect it's at least partially because. . .

      And I expect it is because Buzzie is making stuff up again, based only on his fevered conservative brainstem.

      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday December 27 2017, @03:35AM (10 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @03:35AM (#614595) Journal

        He's not wrong actually. We have the highest reported rate of domestic violence, though honestly I suspect it's higher among gay men but they simply don't dare report it. I had an abusive ex, though to be fair she's bisexual, not lesbian. I've made it a point only to date rock-solid gold-star lesbians since then and have never had issues.

        Uzzard, of course, is simply annoyed I have better success with women than he does :D

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        • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Wednesday December 27 2017, @06:45AM (6 children)

          by krishnoid (1156) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @06:45AM (#614632)

          Just FYI, 'gold-star' has a particular meaning in that statement (I think). Not sure if 'rock-solid' is also comparable argot.

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday December 27 2017, @08:30PM (5 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @08:30PM (#614861) Journal

            Yes, it means "absolutely positively never have, does not, and never will have sex with men." Basically, I look for people who are as sure that they are gay as I am--and this from the woman whose reaction from her mother on coming out was "No shit, I've known since you were four" followed by turning to my father and going "You lost that bet, Mark."

            I try so, so hard not to be bi-phobic. But I have not had good experience with bisexual women, and for my own safety choose to avoid them.

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            • (Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday December 28 2017, @12:05AM (4 children)

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday December 28 2017, @12:05AM (#614920) Homepage Journal

              You know, I've had really bad luck with bi chicks as well. In this case that means I've been unlucky enough to spend longer than is strictly necessary to recognize the crazy train coming my way and run screaming. Maybe it's a thing, maybe it's not, but it's damned sure not worth it to me to find out.

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              • (Score: 4, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday December 28 2017, @04:08AM (3 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday December 28 2017, @04:08AM (#614976) Journal

                I can't imagine you ever having had luck with any woman of any description. You strike me as the kind of person whose hand would develop five spontaneous headaches, one per finger, out of pure self-defense when the idea of beating off crossed your mind.

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                • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday December 28 2017, @11:35AM (2 children)

                  by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday December 28 2017, @11:35AM (#615063) Homepage Journal

                  Ha! Good one.

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                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday December 28 2017, @08:44PM (1 child)

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday December 28 2017, @08:44PM (#615257) Journal

                    It's all made up on the spot, on-demand. I could probably do decent stand-up, except the world's decided that Women Aren't Funny (TM). Well, that, and Carlin basically said everything I want to already...

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                    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday December 28 2017, @10:35PM

                      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday December 28 2017, @10:35PM (#615290) Homepage Journal

                      ...except the world's decided that Women Aren't Funny (TM).

                      It's like lower muscle density; it can be overcome to a degree. I'll admit Lucy and Carol Burnette were probably on humor enhancing substances but I don't think Maureen O'Hara ever was.

                      Straight up though, I think it's entirely a matter of being fully willing to look like a clown. It's probably harder to do that when part of your mind is always worrying about how you appear to others.

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        • (Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Wednesday December 27 2017, @06:49AM (2 children)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @06:49AM (#614633) Journal

          We have the highest reported rate of domestic violence, though honestly I suspect . . .

          Yes, this is what I was talking about. Reported? Citation needed, otherwise we just feed TMB's rather sick fantasy life. And you suspect? Plausible, but not better then our Carrion Vulture's surmise. Here is my suggestion: how about we stick to verifiable facts on issues like this, otherwise Runaway2000 will stop by to tell us what he thinks, and no one wants that!