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posted by janrinok on Wednesday December 27 2017, @07:21AM   Printer-friendly
from the little-green-men dept.

The existence of UFOs had been "proved beyond reasonable doubt," according the head of the secret Pentagon program that analyzed the mysterious aircrafts.

In an interview with British broadsheet The Telegraph published on Saturday, Luis Elizondo told the newspaper of the sightings, "In my opinion, if this was a court of law, we have reached the point of 'beyond reasonable doubt.'"

"I hate to use the term UFO but that's what we're looking at," he added. "I think it's pretty clear this is not us, and it's not anyone else, so no one has to ask questions where they're from."

Since 2007, Elizondo led the government program, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, investigating evidence of UFOs and alien life. It was shuttered in 2012.

Its existence was first reported by The New York Times last week.

Elizondo was not able to discuss specifics of the program, but told The Telegraph that there had been "lots" of UFO sightings and witnesses interviewed during the program's five years.

Investigators pinpointed geographical "hot spots" that were sometimes near nuclear facilities and power plants and observed trends among the aircrafts including lack of flight surfaces on the objects and extreme manoeuvrability, Elizondo told The Telegraph.

Previously: Pentagon's UFO Investigation Program Revealed


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 27 2017, @09:09AM (8 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 27 2017, @09:09AM (#614667) Journal

    The man doesn't seem to address the issue with much authority. He isn't pointing to any incident, and telling us, "We're sure" or "We're certain that this was an alien spacecraft." It seems to be the same kind of "feeling" that many of us laymen have. To put that feeling into words, "There have been so many sightings, in so many places, by so many unrelated people, that it seems there has to be something to the idea of alien visitors." But, Elizondo doesn't go so far as to identify some dozens of sightings, and tell us that he is sure those sightings were real.

    If the guy spent all those years researching, and all he has are unsubstantiated suspicions, he looks like a waste. All he's doing is capitalizing on his association with the government.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by MostCynical on Wednesday December 27 2017, @10:07AM (4 children)

    by MostCynical (2589) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @10:07AM (#614673) Journal

    Next step, he changes his name to Fox Mulder.

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    • (Score: 5, Funny) by maxwell demon on Wednesday December 27 2017, @10:31AM (3 children)

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @10:31AM (#614677) Journal

      Next step, he changes his name to Fox Mulder.

      Does that mean everything he says afterwards is Fox News? :-)

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      • (Score: 4, Touché) by turgid on Wednesday December 27 2017, @11:21AM (2 children)

        by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 27 2017, @11:21AM (#614688) Journal
        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 27 2017, @01:32PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 27 2017, @01:32PM (#614727)

          Faux Mulder?

          • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 28 2017, @12:45AM

            by Gaaark (41) on Thursday December 28 2017, @12:45AM (#614936) Journal

            Just gimme some Scully!

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday December 28 2017, @02:13AM (2 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday December 28 2017, @02:13AM (#614958) Journal

    The truth is classified.

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 28 2017, @05:26AM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 28 2017, @05:26AM (#614997) Journal

      Yoda might say, "Classified, is truth."

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday December 28 2017, @05:55AM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday December 28 2017, @05:55AM (#615001) Journal

        To expand on what I was saying, the guy has seen whatever evidence he claims to have seen from military aircraft videos, radar, etc. The videos that were released (don't forget, in response to a FOIA request rather than voluntarily) were edited down, and the Pentagon gave no location + date for one of the videos. All of the data collected by most military aircraft and drone flights are likely to be classified from the start, no matter if cool alien spacecraft were spotted or not. Maybe Elizondo would have to face a military tribunal if he let actual details slip, even if AATIP's most shocking conclusions boiled down to "they aren't atmospheric phenomena and they do look like they are crafts more technologically advanced than what any military on Earth has".

        That doesn't make the hinting much less annoying, and obviously "these are definitely UFOs" is not a great statement compared to "this is technology originating from beyond Earth". But the Telegraph article uses "extra-terrestrial craft" and similar terms rather than "UFOs" so the summary is actually a god damn mess anyway:

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/23/existence-ufos-proved-beyond-reasonable-doubt-says-former-pentagon/ [telegraph.co.uk]

        Luis Elizondo said the existence of supremely advanced unidentified aircraft, using technology that did not belong to any nation, had been "proved beyond reasonable doubt".

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