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posted by janrinok on Monday January 01 2018, @05:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the plenty-to-read dept.

The presentations from the 34th Chaos Communication Congress (34C3) are online now that the conference has concluded. The 34C3 took place from December 27 through December 30, this time in Leipzig. The presentations were in English or German, with translations available from one to the other.

Some presentations are more technical, others not so much. One of the more popular non-technical presentations was author Charlie Stross on Dude, you broke the Future!


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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by janrinok on Monday January 01 2018, @05:51PM (6 children)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 01 2018, @05:51PM (#616461) Journal

    You're a big boy now. You can Google it just as easily as I can.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 01 2018, @06:22PM (5 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 01 2018, @06:22PM (#616475) Journal
    I'm not the editor for this story though. Come on, it's not a hard thing to do.
    • (Score: 3, Touché) by janrinok on Monday January 01 2018, @06:58PM (4 children)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 01 2018, @06:58PM (#616483) Journal

      I'll tell you what, you spend your holiday editing and I will just comment and criticise you for it, shall I? Now I'm going to spend some time with my family. Have a good 2018.

      The Chaos Computer Club has been operating since 1981, if you haven't heard of it yet then perhaps you don't know as much as you think you do.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 01 2018, @08:30PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 01 2018, @08:30PM (#616500)

        Thanks for all the hard work you do, seriously.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 01 2018, @10:25PM (2 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 01 2018, @10:25PM (#616519) Journal
        It's not just your very valuable time (would it really be longer to just add a link to a better explanation of "Chaos" than to post several times that you're not going to?), but also the time of the many readers who won't be familiar with whatever this group is (obviously, including me). Surely, the time of hundreds of readers who otherwise need to google such terms is worth something.

        Having said that, thank you for doing all this work in the first place.

        I'll tell you what, you spend your holiday editing and I will just comment and criticise you for it, shall I?

        Tell you what. If you don't mind unusually high levels of belly aching (from the people who already complain about me now), I'll help edit. I definitely had the time this holiday to help out. And I already weather more whining and complaining than most editors receive.

        As to editing a story after its release, it's not that frowned upon. There's several ways to do it while making it clear that the edit happened after the story was created. For example "[added 1/1/17 khallow [soylentnews.org]: The Chaos Computer Club [wikipedia.org] is 'Europe's largest association of hackers with 5,500 registered members'. Their annual conference, Chaos Communication Congress [wikipedia.org] has taken place since 1984 in Germany.]" which could be inserted either in the story (with the above brackets) or appended to the end (without brackets).

        Errors and news updates happen pretty often with news stories and as a result edit corrections are common. Some ninja it with inconvenient statements/mistakes disappearing without a trace (obviously not a practice we want to copy), but many make it clear what changes they made with edits and corrections made either in the story or appended to the end of the story.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 02 2018, @08:07PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 02 2018, @08:07PM (#616862)

          I think the CCC is well known enough not to need a lengthy introduction at the end of every post about it. Maybe in CNN or Fox, but not in tech sites, it's the largest group and the largest Congress of this kind in Europe. The post had clear context (it's a mostly tech Congress) and people who don't know about the Congress had ddg, goggle and the provided link to get more information about it. People who think their time is so valuable that consider finding out what the CCC is a waste of time will certainly not benefit from the post, even if the lengthy introduction was in the post itself. People who know the CCC or have enough curiosity to benefit from a post about a Congress would lose time if the lengthy introduction was in the post.
          But more importantly, this website would look like it was made for retards if posts had introductions about common acronyms.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday January 05 2018, @05:45PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 05 2018, @05:45PM (#618409) Journal
            I strongly disagree. This conference has never been mentioned in a story on SN before. I googled. The snobbery is ridiculous. The conference is not that well-known (for starters, it's regional, a German thing). Just explain shit and drop the nasal whine.