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posted by Fnord666 on Monday January 01 2018, @04:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the weiner-jokes-never-get-old dept.

State Dept. posts Clinton aide's documents found on Weiner's laptop

The State Department on Friday released portions of 2,800 emails and other documents belonging to former Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin that were recovered by the FBI last year on Abedin's estranged husband Anthony Weiner's computer last year.

While the newly released emails have been seized on by conservative activists who have long been critical of Clinton's treatment of classified emails as secretary of State, the FBI already said in 2016 that a review of the emails didn't change the bureau's opinion that Clinton shouldn't face charges over email handling.

The Friday release came after a 2015 Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by the conservative group Judicial Watch against the State Department seeking the release of emails containing "official State Department business" sent or received from Abedin from January 2009 to February 2013 using a non-State Department email address.

Also at Judicial Watch and CNN.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 02 2018, @04:27AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 02 2018, @04:27AM (#616615)

    Obama's IRS purposely targeted conservative non-profits to deny them non-profit status. Tea party stuff was particularly targeted.

    Hogwash. No evidence anyone intentionally did any such filtering. Sloppy practices, perhaps.

    The rest of your list is also spun.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by khallow on Tuesday January 02 2018, @07:05AM (3 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 02 2018, @07:05AM (#616647) Journal

    No evidence anyone intentionally did any such filtering. Sloppy practices, perhaps.

    "Intentionally". Except of course, you can't filter unintentionally in this way.

    The rest of your list is also spun.

    You know what it's called when I give someone a bunch of firearms which I know will eventually get used in the commission of crimes including murder? Accessory to murder [legalmatch.com]. That brings us to the ATF example [wikipedia.org].

    An accessory charge is generally not in itself a felony. However, being an accessory to a felony crime can lead to non-violent felony charges, which will be noted on one’s criminal record. This is important, because having a felony charge on a criminal record can sometimes lead to a loss of various privileges, such as being able to own a firearm. An accessory to a felony crime will usually receive a sentence that is less severe than the sentence for the principal actor.

    Federal laws state that the penalties for an accessory to a felony are not to exceed half of the maximum prison time or fine that the principal receives. If the principal receives a death sentence, the accessory may be incarcerated for up to 15 years maximum. States may also have their own individual laws governing accessories to a crime.

    Somewhere around 2000 firearms ended up lost in Mexico, mostly to the Sinaloa cartel [npr.org]. Among other things these firearms were found at the crime scene in 200+ murders. Not all of them are going to count as assisting said murders, but odds are good that there's several dozen cases of accessory to murder in there for the ATF officials who insured these firearms fell into the hands of the Sinaloa cartel.

    Then there's the matter of whether this was intended by the people who engineered the program to harm the Sinaloa cartel, or help them. Reading around, it appears the weapons were a mix of high quality AK 47s and 50 cal sniper rifles. Both would be useful to the Sinaloa cartel. In addition, we don't know what else was smuggled out with these weapons because no one was allowed to stop those shipments. There are a lot of things of value that one would want to sneak out of the US (money laundering, fugitives, even more guns, etc), and maybe that was the point of the exercise. Or maybe the point was to generate a bunch of bodies in order to push through a gun control agenda. In any case, it devolved from a sting operation that was supposed to catch higher ups to a considerable boon for the cartel in question.

    This is the sort of nasty stuff that is being "spun" in the list above. Obama and his administration cut a lot of corners, broke a bunch of laws, killed a fair number of people, and handed that mess and that power to Trump. My bet is that if you don't mind the first three, then you'll certainly mind the fourth.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 02 2018, @06:44PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 02 2018, @06:44PM (#616821)

      This isn't an us vs. them scenario here. It is a problem with the system. Bush, Obama, Trump, they're all symptoms of a fucked up system. Playing whataboutism to support "your team" which is currently the most blatantly corrupt of all time really illustrates your values.

      Nothing wrong with pointing out problems, but try for better context than "nuh uh your side is grossest!"

      At the very least you don't seem as rabidly pro trump as the mojo man who started this shitfest of a comment train. Trump will be remembered as the worst president after Nixon, and if he were smarter he'd easily be able to win that award with the ridiculous level of police state controls that was handed to him on a silver platter. Oh, it was silver and not gold with a monogrammed DJT on it, thus why he didn't read those memos.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 02 2018, @08:18PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 02 2018, @08:18PM (#616869) Journal

        This isn't an us vs. them scenario here. It is a problem with the system. Bush, Obama, Trump, they're all symptoms of a fucked up system. Playing whataboutism to support "your team" which is currently the most blatantly corrupt of all time really illustrates your values.

        Then why are you playing the moral equivalence card here? Why are you undermining a legit complaint? Whose "team" are you on?

        Nothing wrong with pointing out problems, but try for better context than "nuh uh your side is grossest!"

        And when are you going to start doing that? You have to prosecute the powerful for crimes they committed. Else there is no point to whining about the corruption. Notice the previous AC blew off a variety of crimes as "sloppy practices". Well, guess what corruption is. It's just a sloppy practice that happens to consist of a bunch of crimes.

        And what will happen in 4 or 8 years? Another AC complaining about the most corrupt administration ever while ignoring the crimes of the former Trump administration?

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday January 02 2018, @08:55PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday January 02 2018, @08:55PM (#616889) Journal

        Trump will be remembered as the worst president after Nixon, and if he were smarter he'd easily be able to win that award with the ridiculous level of police state controls that was handed to him on a silver platter. Oh, it was silver and not gold with a monogrammed DJT on it, thus why he didn't read those memos.

        It's only been a year, so I think it's a bit early to predict how Trump will be remembered.

        So far, I'm seeing all kinds of disruption of the status quo. He instantly shut down the worst trade pact in history upon assuming office; that's a huge deal because so many massively powerful forces all over the world were pushing that one for a long time. He has shown the press up for the hackneyed spinfest it has become; that's huge because they lost the credibility they trade on and will never get it back. His presence in office prompted others to finally address the rampant sexual harassment in Hollywood and the media that's been going on for decades; that's huge, because it represents more real progress for women in the workplace than they've seen in I can't remember how long. Trump has actually shrunk the size of the federal government, which no previous president, Democrat or Republican, has ever managed to do; that's huge because the richest counties in America are DC suburbs because they have siphoned so much of our national wealth off into their pockets.

        Now, I wish he would take the NSA out to the woodshed. I demand he breaks the Wall Street banks. Those are the really big ones; if he does not do those his term will be a failure no matter what else.

        In short, it's possible historians will come to view Trump as the little boy who declared the Emperor has no clothes. It's possible they will view him as a product of the national dysfunction at the end stage of the First American Republic, and not as a change agent at all. It's possible he'll be villified as the guy who did nothing on climate change in time to prevent the catastrophic collapse of the Antarctican ice sheet. It's possible he'll go down in history as the only American president who was ever impeached by the House, convicted in the Senate, and removed from office. All those things are possible.

        --
        Washington DC delenda est.