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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday January 03 2018, @06:24PM   Printer-friendly
from the a-rolling-stone-gathers-no-ellsberg dept.

The Rolling Stone has run a web version of its 1973 interview with Daniel Ellsberg. Ellsberg is the former US military analyst who blew the whistle on the Nixon administration's misdeeds regarding the Vietnam War. Specfically he photocopied an extensive, secret study and gave it to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and later to The New York Times, The Washington Post, and nearly a score of other newspapers. These documents he released became known as the Pentagon Papers eventually published as excerpts and commentaries by The New York Times. Both The New York Times and The Rolling Stone have since drifted from that kind of coverage and the article provides an interesting contrast to how those publications are now.


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  • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Arik on Wednesday January 03 2018, @09:30PM (6 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Wednesday January 03 2018, @09:30PM (#617357) Journal
    You don't call your butler 'boy?'
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  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by bob_super on Wednesday January 03 2018, @09:54PM (5 children)

    by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday January 03 2018, @09:54PM (#617372)

    I ain't ever getting a butler anyone could mistake for a boy, or a man, even on those cursed occasions when clothing is required.

    • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Arik on Wednesday January 03 2018, @10:09PM (4 children)

      by Arik (4543) on Wednesday January 03 2018, @10:09PM (#617383) Journal
      You want an androgynous butler?

      This just gets stranger and stranger.
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      • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by bob_super on Thursday January 04 2018, @12:24AM (3 children)

        by bob_super (1357) on Thursday January 04 2018, @12:24AM (#617441)

        Wouldn't androgynous imply a risk of confusion with a boy or man?
        At some point I jumped from a genericish butler male naming concept, to expressing my own requirements, yet I may ask my highly-feminine and totally imaginary potential future butler to answer to Gaston too, just to please you.

        I believe we do deserve our upcoming Offtopic mods.

        • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Arik on Thursday January 04 2018, @02:05AM (2 children)

          by Arik (4543) on Thursday January 04 2018, @02:05AM (#617463) Journal
          "Wouldn't androgynous imply a risk of confusion with a boy or man?"

          Yes. The implication was that a female butler is inconceivable, impossible, a contradiction in terms.

          but·ler
          ˈbətlər/
          noun
          noun: butler; plural noun: butlers

              the chief manservant of a house.

          No woman would take such a job, and even if one did, she still wouldn't be a butler.
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          • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by dry on Thursday January 04 2018, @03:51AM (1 child)

            by dry (223) on Thursday January 04 2018, @03:51AM (#617504) Journal

            Actually, there are quite a few female butlers. Times change and we even have female firemen.
            According to Wiki, the first mention of a female butler was in a 1892 book and here's one of the first hits talking about female butlers (often called House Managers or Personal Assistants, just like a fireman are often called fireperson) http://www.thebillionairesbutler.com/2011/04/faq-are-there-female-butlers.html [thebillionairesbutler.com]

            • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Arik on Thursday January 04 2018, @05:12AM

              by Arik (4543) on Thursday January 04 2018, @05:12AM (#617525) Journal
              Whoosh.
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