Fred Reed's mathematical analysis of Trump's Wall proves that Trump is insincere, proves that Trump is mathematically incompetent, and earns Fred Reed an honorary nerd card:
https://fredoneverything.org/the-wall-the-sound-and-the-fury-and-not-much-else/
More math!
~childo
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 08 2018, @03:27PM (3 children)
Why are you defending this wall idea??
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 08 2018, @04:47PM (2 children)
Because scofflaws are routinely breaking the law, and I'd like to see the law enforced. The wall won't stop ALL of the scofflaws, but it will cut the flood to a trickle. That, and it's an engineering feat that I'd like to see. Build the wall. America needs the jobs. Everybody wins. We create more jobs, at the same time cutting down on the illegal competition for those jobs. And then, we enforce everify for ALL employers. An employer caught using illegal aliens is put out of business, his earnings confiscated, and sent to prison for a good long while. When he leaves prison, he is barred for life from running a business. Everybody wins - except the lawbreakers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @01:17AM (1 child)
If your best argument is that building a wall will create jobs, why not employ people to make something useful. Channel the money in to improving roads, or the railways, or some other form of infrastructure that is actually useful for the economy.
And enforcing laws, are there not other laws that it would be more beneficial to improve enforcement of? If you think illegals are a serious problem that needs to be dealt with better, then more punishment for employing them and more enforcement of such laws against employing them will surely be much more cost effective than building a wall, and those actions don't require a wall to be in place.
Economically, is the wall really worth building?
If building it isn't economically worth while, then does it provide significant extra security to the USA?
I think the answer to both those questions is "no". So what are the benefits of building this wall?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 09 2018, @02:56AM
The wall is useful. The wall is economically useful, because it will help to stabilize our economy. It does increase security. The fact that you think the answers to your questions is "no" doesn't make it so. Bring on the punishment for employers, that's great. I love the idea. Meanwhile, build the wall.
Again, the Chinese accomplished a comparable feat, thousands of years ago, using only grunt labor and millenia old technology. Are we such wimps, that a wall challenges us? Just build the wall. The wall will mess with the flow of drugs, probably to a greater extent than all of the DEA's other misguided efforts. That alone justifies the wall.
National pride has something to do with all of this. If you have none, then you see no point in the wall. I have such pride. This country belongs to us, and we don't owe it, or any part of it, to outsiders. Those Mexicans, and everyone else, can just stay out, unless they ASK politely to come in, and we eventually grant permission.
Do you leave your doors at home hanging open, and allow anyone and everyone to come in, as they wish? I didn't think so. Why are our doors hanging open at the border? Close the doors. Control immigration, and stop allowing immigration to control us.