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posted by FatPhil on Tuesday January 09 2018, @07:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the debating-whether-something's-debatable dept.

It looks like anybody can be against academic censorship, as this opinion piece in the Washington Post shows:

Wisconsin's Supreme Court can soon right a flagrant wrong stemming from events set in motion in 2014 at Milwaukee's Marquette University by Cheryl Abbate. Although just a graduate student, she already had a precocious aptitude for academic nastiness.

On Oct. 28, in an undergraduate course she was teaching on ethics, when the subject of same-sex marriage arose, there was no debate, because, a student said, Abbate insisted that there could be no defensible opposition to this. (Marquette is a Jesuit school.) After class, the student told her that he opposed same-sex marriage and her discouraging of debate about it. She replied (he recorded their interaction) that "there are some opinions that are not appropriate that are harmful [...]

[...] McAdams, a tenured professor then in his 41st year at Marquette and a conservative who blogs about the school's news, emailed Abbate seeking her version of the episode. Without responding to him, she immediately forwarded his email to some professors. She has called McAdams "the ringleader" of "extreme white [sic] wing, hateful people," a "moron," "a flaming bigot, sexist and homophobic idiot" and a "creepy homophobic person with bad argumentation skills."

Because there is almost no Wisconsin case law concerning academic freedom that could have guided the circuit court, McAdams is asking the state supreme court to bypass the appeals court and perform its function as the state's "law-developing court." He is also asking the court to be cognizant of the cultural context: Nationwide, colleges and universities "are under pressure" — all of it from within the institutions — "to enact or implement speech codes or otherwise restrict speech in various ways."

[Post-publishing edit: An A/C below helpfully provides the following far more neutral reportage by Inside higher Ed titled Ethics Lesson which explains the situation with more light and less head. Thanks A/C - Ed. (FP)]


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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @07:57AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @07:57AM (#619910)

    There is no such thing as "SJW", it is a creation of the alt-right, just like "alt-right" itself. And this is exactly why McAdams had to go, he was a right wing academic troll, probably with his pack of the dozen or so White Male Conservative students let in on affirmative action, looking to stir up shit. Well, he found some. So who exactly was operating on political bias instead of quality scholarship and teaching excellence? I have placed a plethora of SJWs under your bed. Sleep well, right-wing nut-job!

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  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @08:13AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @08:13AM (#619915)

    Cheryl Abbate's version of "ethics", that she was supposedly teaching, was not in keeping with the Catholic faith. It was closer to the "ethics" of another ethics professor, Eric Canton, who tried to murder Trump supporters by bashing their heads with a U-lock.

    The solution really is simple for a Catholic university. Simply require that everybody on campus be acting in accordance with the faith:

    For those age 25 and up, require either Holy Orders or Matrimony. For everybody under 25, Confirmation is enough.

    Require attendance at mass, including on all holy days of obligation. Require confession. Require regular communion.

    Watch for the 7 deadly sins. Watch for breaking the commandments. Prohibit the possession of condoms, except to married people when one person has a disease.

    There is in fact a Catholic university that mostly does this. It's called Ava Maria, in the city of Ava Maria, in Florida. Yes, they really don't have condoms. Finding condoms and porn in the city is rather difficult; the shop owners have been strongly pressured to not sell them.

    https://www.avemaria.edu/ [avemaria.edu]

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @08:21AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @08:21AM (#619918)

      One? "Catholic"? Evidently you do not know what the word means. And remember, always remember, "Abstinence makes the Church Grow Fondlers".

      It is nice that Mel Gibson is posting as AC on SoylentNews, now. Hey, how's about the return of the Latin mass, and some good, old-fashioned Catholic anti-semitism?

      • (Score: 2) by fritsd on Tuesday January 09 2018, @12:47PM (1 child)

        by fritsd (4586) on Tuesday January 09 2018, @12:47PM (#619977) Journal

        Damn, I should have given Torquemada as example, not Qutb ;-)

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 09 2018, @08:50PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 09 2018, @08:50PM (#620206) Journal

          That guy is so bullheaded. Once he gets fixated on something, well, you can't Torquemada nuthin'...

          --
          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @09:31AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @09:31AM (#619929)

      > Cheryl Abbate's version of "ethics", that she was supposedly teaching, was not in keeping with the Catholic faith. It was closer to the "ethics" of another ethics professor, Eric Canton, who tried to murder Trump supporters by bashing their heads with a U-lock.

      And the version of "ethics" that she was supposed to teach and the Catholic faith is supposedly teaching, was closer to the "ethics" of, wait for it, Adolf Hitler. You really don't want to go down the road of "you're the same as the worst person espousing some facet of your personal ethics".

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @03:01PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @03:01PM (#620019)

        I don't know about any of that, but you would go down on Adolph, if he could still get it up.

    • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Tuesday January 09 2018, @04:28PM (1 child)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Tuesday January 09 2018, @04:28PM (#620068)

      That all sounds good to me. If a Catholic university is going to promote those standards, they might as well do it wholeheartedly. They should go even further IMO: not only should they require attendance at mass, they should monitor students to make sure they're attending, and that they're going to confession. They should also have cameras in their dorm rooms to make sure they're not committing any sins there. The bit about requiring marriage or holy orders by age 25 is good too. No exceptions should be allowed. And there should be regular checks of all students' personal belongings, both in the dorms and back at their parents' homes, to make sure they don't have any contraceptives.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @08:11PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @08:11PM (#620189)

        You forgot the cameras in the confessional.