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posted by Fnord666 on Monday January 15 2018, @01:56AM   Printer-friendly
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Chelsea Manning eyes U.S. Senate seat for Maryland

Chelsea Manning, the transgender U.S. Army soldier who served seven years in military prison for leaking classified data, is seeking the Democratic Party's nomination for the U.S. Senate seat from Maryland, according to Federal election filings seen on Saturday.

[...] Democratic Senator Ben Cardin was elected in 2006 to that seat and is expected to run for re-election this year. He is the senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Cardin was easily re-elected in 2012, beating his Republican challenger by 30 points in the heavily-Democratic state.

Previously: Chelsea Manning Released from Prison, Remains on Active Duty Pending Appeal
Harvard Dean Rescinds Chelsea Manning's Visiting Fellow Invitation, Calling It a 'Mistake'


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by julian on Monday January 15 2018, @06:09PM (8 children)

    by julian (6003) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 15 2018, @06:09PM (#622652)

    I agree with your electoral assessment. Republicans would count Manning being elected as a win. They'd prefer a Republican Senator, but a weakened Democrat would be an improvement for them. Obviously we don't want that.

    I am modding you -1 troll because of the pointlessly inflammatory rhetoric about Manning's personal life. Your parents should have taught you that good manners don't cost anything. You can hold whatever private views you want on transgenderism but until she insults you personally there's no excuse for being churlish.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by canopic jug on Monday January 15 2018, @07:07PM (7 children)

    by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 15 2018, @07:07PM (#622666) Journal

    If he wants to ponce about in women's clothes, technically that's his right. If you want him to run for office, that's your right. Just don't ask the world to pretend he's qualified. Worse don't show off how much biology and logic you missed in school by pretending he's other than a man in a dress.

    How many legs does a dog have if you call his tail a leg? Four. Saying that a tail is a leg doesn't make it a leg.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by julian on Monday January 15 2018, @07:42PM (4 children)

      by julian (6003) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 15 2018, @07:42PM (#622682)

      I essentially share your stance, with some reservations; the difference is I don't feel compelled to articulate my views with mean-spirited insults. And seeing as I am a biologist by education I would wager I have a deeper and more nuanced understanding of this than you do.

      But this isn't a question of biology, it's about basic decency. You could try showing some.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by canopic jug on Monday January 15 2018, @07:57PM (3 children)

        by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 15 2018, @07:57PM (#622695) Journal

        Since when should lying be equated to decency? Since when should the truth be construed as an insult?

        He's neither qualified, nor experienced, nor other than a man in a dress. As mentioned he's within his right to run, but in the unlikely chance that he wins, chalk on up for the Republicans. They'll probably even back him financially if it comes down to it. However, the cynic in me says he's just trying to cash in on some publicity since fading from view after the pardon and his repugnant response to Obama.

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by RedBear on Tuesday January 16 2018, @12:01AM (2 children)

          by RedBear (1734) on Tuesday January 16 2018, @12:01AM (#622856)

          Since when should lying be equated to decency? Since when should the truth be construed as an insult?

          Transgender individuals (people with clinically diagnosed gender dysphoria) are no more "lying" about their condition than are people with depression, schizophrenia, synesthesia, word aphasia, dyslexia, amnesia or any other condition that originates in the brain. You just can't get past the body and acknowledge there is a mind inside that body that doesn't match the external equipment. I know the bigoted things you say make sense to you, but it's really you who have the emotional problem with accepting the experience of other people. Your typical misgendering of her is extremely petty and counterproductive.

          There are lots of people who cross-dress and don't claim to be transgender, because they aren't. Many of them aren't even gay necessarily, they just like the clothes. Conversely, there are many transgender people who aren't really interested in dressing in specific clothes to match their mental gender, and others who are extremely unhappy every minute they have to wear the "wrong" type of clothing to keep bigots like you from antagonizing them and making their lives even more of a living hell. Humanity is much more complicated than you want to believe. There are historical signs that gay and transgender people have been part of humanity going back to antiquity. It's not a new thing someone invented last week.

          Chelsea Manning wasn't pardoned, by the way. The remainder of her 35-year prison sentence was commuted. That isn't the same thing. And this is what she actually said:

          Although Manning, her family and many supporters are undoubtedly grateful that Obama dramatically reduced her sentence from its initial 35 years to just a few more months, plus time served, the former Army private still suggested that the ex-president's penchant for compromise with his political foes hamstrung his administration.

          "For eight years, it did not matter how balanced President Obama was. It did not matter how educated he was, or how intelligent he was. Nothing was ever good enough for his opponents," Manning wrote in The Guardian. "It was clear that he could not win. It was clear that, no matter what he did, in their eyes, he could not win."

          "The one simple lesson to draw from President Obama’s legacy: do not start off with a compromise. They won’t meet you in the middle. Instead, what we need is an unapologetic progressive leader," she added.

          I voted for Obama twice and find nothing repugnant in what she said. She had the courage to speak the truth regardless of her situation. Obama was absolutely hamstrung during his administration by continual attempts to compromise with extremists who had no interest in ever compromising, and his commutation of her sentence rather than a pardon was part of his compromising.

          When I took a close look at what she has written over the years and since her release, I saw a person with unusual inner strength and emotional conviction to do what is right regardless of personal negative consequences. I would absolutely vote for HER for any office in the land, and I'm glad she's going to run.

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          • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by canopic jug on Tuesday January 16 2018, @06:19AM (1 child)

            by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 16 2018, @06:19AM (#623012) Journal

            I found his writings unnoteworthy except for their provenance. His speaking is underwhelming and not something you'd want in the senate going against articulate opponents. In one panel he said barely a peep and when he did it was not relevant and barely on topic. I can see the Republicans eagerly bankrolling his campaign.

            I know the bigoted things you say make sense to you, but it's really you who have the emotional problem with accepting the experience of other people. Your typical misgendering of her is extremely petty and counterproductive.

            And right on schedule, out pops the name calling. It might work on your fellow high school students but going ad hominem indicates that you've lost and concede.

            Like I said, if he wants to ponce about in women's clothes, technically that's his right, and if you want him to run for office, that's your right, too. However, don't ask the world to try to play along with phantastical abuse of language just to push a misguided agenda. Save your fake rage for the scum running the industries that are filling the biosphere and food with hormone mimic contaminants.

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            • (Score: 2) by canopic jug on Tuesday January 30 2018, @09:19AM

              by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 30 2018, @09:19AM (#630255) Journal

              Since he is running for office, his communication skills are most certainly on topic. He will have to write and speak as part of the campaign and if he makes it into office by knocking out a senior Democrat. Being so weak in both is an extreme liability which will hurt the party's influence, above and beyond losing the seniority. Which is more important pushing an anti-social, gay, niche agenda or democracy?

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    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 15 2018, @08:43PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 15 2018, @08:43PM (#622715)

      Saying that a woman is a man-in-a-dress doesn't make her a man.

      FTFY

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 15 2018, @10:21PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 15 2018, @10:21PM (#622795)

        How many X- and/or Y- chromosomes does this woman or man-in-a-dress have?