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posted by Fnord666 on Monday January 15 2018, @08:26PM   Printer-friendly
from the It's-FOSS dept.

Linux system manufacturer System76 introduced a beautiful looking Linux distribution called Pop!_OS. But is Pop OS worth an install? Read the Pop OS review and find out yourself.

More at : https://itsfoss.com/pop-os-linux-review/


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by frojack on Tuesday January 16 2018, @02:42AM (5 children)

    by frojack (1554) on Tuesday January 16 2018, @02:42AM (#622951) Journal

    Early adoption of KDE4 hurt KDE. Distros like Ubuntu ignored warnings from the devs and packaged up what was essentially a developer preview and shipped it to end users.

    Nope. Not true.

    I was using it at the time. Opensuse was one of the worst offenders. The made it the DEFAULT, then months later when it blew up in their face they tried to deny they even recommended it.

    But NO, the KDE developers were NOT blameless. The actively pushed distros to do early releases, (more than half of the KDE developers and packagers were employed by distros at the time, and they REALLY really wanted kde4 to to get some testing, and in doing so they almost killed their brand. Then they refused to even handle security patches for 3.5x. Utterly and completely unprofessional.

    Finally there was a few changes of leadership and slowly over a two year period it became stable. But it was shit until KDE/Plasma5 came out, which also had minor-ish problems.

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  • (Score: 1) by shrewdsheep on Tuesday January 16 2018, @03:39PM (4 children)

    by shrewdsheep (5215) on Tuesday January 16 2018, @03:39PM (#623152)

    Same experience here. Unfortunately, neither opensuse nor KDE have learned much since then. I filed some bugs with KDE only to get them closed or commented on derogatorily. If you watch a recent talk from a KDE maintainer given at a opensuse conference (on the opensuse youtube channel, sorry won't look it up) you will understand their disregard for the end user, testing, and software quality in general. That being said, I still prefer KDE over Gnome but I minimize my dependencies on programs my moving as much as possible to the command line. For example, I run my dovecot instance to manage, fetch and filter my email, so I can easily switch the client (Thunderbird at the moment) which will just connect to my localhost IMAP server.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 16 2018, @07:14PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 16 2018, @07:14PM (#623235)

      None of the big name userspace projects have learned anything. It is the same behavior that can be observed with Mozilla, Gnome, the various stuff happening under the Freedesktop umbrella, etc etc etc.

      It is basically the behavior observed by JWZ and summarized as CADT.

      And these days it seems to have gotten even worse as FOSS has become fashionable. Thus we get a eternal september style scenario where the major projects constantly attract new programmers with little respect for what already exist, and lots of energy for barfing out code. And the project management can't say no, because then they get the SJWs breathing down their necks (and a worry number of them are hardline SJWs themselves, that is using their time managing said projects to pad their social resumes and virtue signal).

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 16 2018, @08:04PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 16 2018, @08:04PM (#623265)

        thanks, this cracked me up and i love FOSS. virtue signal RELEASE!

      • (Score: 1) by shrewdsheep on Tuesday January 16 2018, @08:05PM (1 child)

        by shrewdsheep (5215) on Tuesday January 16 2018, @08:05PM (#623267)

        I general, I agree. However, there is one exception, namely Libreoffice. While far from perfect, the project actually improved software quality over the years going from unusable (like every new KDE series) to decent (hardly ever achieved by KDE). Also the project attracts a lot of non-technical people, has excellent funding and is well known in general. Quite some of their recipes could work for other projects such as KDE, IMO.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 16 2018, @09:21PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 16 2018, @09:21PM (#623296)

          Dunno. As long as Libreoffice was stuffing in the improvements that was held back by Openoffice mismanagement it was doing fine. But recently they held a mascot competition that turned into a right farce, suggesting that the "social" people are creeping in and taking over there as well.