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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday January 17 2018, @03:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the tip-your-hand dept.

Senate Democrats have put together 50 votes for a measure meant to block the Federal Communications Commission's December decision to end net neutrality rules put in place by the Obama administration.

Democrats are just one GOP vote shy of the 51-vote threshold for a Senate resolution of disapproval, which would strike down the FCC's December rules change.

"With full caucus support," Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said, "it's clear that Democrats are committed to fighting to keep the internet from becoming the Wild West where ISPs are free to offer premium service to only the wealthiest customers while average consumers are left with far inferior options."

The Democrats' effort won the support of its first Republican backer, Sen. Susan Collins (Maine), last Tuesday.

The Hill


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by NewNic on Wednesday January 17 2018, @06:42PM (13 children)

    by NewNic (6420) on Wednesday January 17 2018, @06:42PM (#623712) Journal

    There is little to nothing to distinguish them.

    I believe that such thinking is the most dangerous to the future of US society.

    If you don't think that there is any difference, then there is no reason to vote.

    If you don't vote, you allow a small number of powerful people to tip everything in their favor. Ordinary people get screwed.

    The real issue isn't what the differences are between the parties: it's where the midpoint lies that is critical. I believe that, for most policies, the midpoint has been moving rightward, resulting in more wealth transferred to the already wealthy, while ordinary people have to deal with the environment becoming worse: more polluted, less access to the better parts of the land, etc..

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  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 17 2018, @07:24PM (9 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday January 17 2018, @07:24PM (#623735) Journal

    I believe that such thinking is the most dangerous to the future of US society.

    You can believe what you want. But for any positive change to take place, the republican/democrat monolith has to at least be reduced to a bit part with more independents in congress.

    If you don't think that there is any difference, then there is no reason to vote.

      There is this fool over there at the "green site" who takes it exactly that same way. And you both couldn't be more wrong. We have other people on the ballot, and we can nominate whoever we want. The procedure is well documented, and the paperwork is very inexpensive. So, there's no excuse to keep reelecting the same old shit every season. Don't try to twist into advocacy for not voting. In fact the non-voting block alone could vote out almost every incumbent in the house. And they certainly could rid us of democrats and republicans. The real danger to society is their continued reelection.

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    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by NewNic on Wednesday January 17 2018, @07:39PM (8 children)

      by NewNic (6420) on Wednesday January 17 2018, @07:39PM (#623744) Journal

      Comprehension fail.

      I wasn't advocating for not voting.

      I was advocating for voting. I believe that voting is very important.

      I believe that the idea that there is no difference between the parties is false and that we all have a reason (and a duty) to vote.

      I would not be surprised if the idea that there is no difference between the parties is one that is being promoted by paid posters. Who benefits when people don't vote: the very wealthy such as the Koch brothers and the Mercers. Who can afford a campaign to dissuade people from voting: the very wealthy.

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      lib·er·tar·i·an·ism ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/ noun: Magical thinking that useful idiots mistake for serious political theory
      • (Score: 0, Troll) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 17 2018, @08:03PM (7 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday January 17 2018, @08:03PM (#623759) Journal

        I wasn't advocating for not voting.

        Where did I say you were?

        From you: If you don't think that there is any difference, then there is no reason to vote.

        And where ever do I say the lack of differences between republicans and democrats is a reason not to vote?? In fact I explicitly warned against it, and look what happens...

        Oof! Talk about comprehension fail...

        The dream, is over

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        • (Score: 2) by NewNic on Wednesday January 17 2018, @09:50PM (5 children)

          by NewNic (6420) on Wednesday January 17 2018, @09:50PM (#623837) Journal

          I wasn't advocating for not voting.

          Where did I say you were?

          Here:

          Don't try to twist into advocacy for not voting.

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          lib·er·tar·i·an·ism ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/ noun: Magical thinking that useful idiots mistake for serious political theory
          • (Score: 0, Troll) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 17 2018, @10:02PM (4 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday January 17 2018, @10:02PM (#623845) Journal

            Yes, when you say, and I will repeat once again:

            If you don't think that there is any difference, then there is no reason to vote.

            That statement is wrong. I was quite explicit about why. The comprehension issue here is not mine.

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            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
            • (Score: 2) by NewNic on Wednesday January 17 2018, @10:28PM (3 children)

              by NewNic (6420) on Wednesday January 17 2018, @10:28PM (#623865) Journal

              Once again, you completely ignored the statement that I picked out in which you accuse me of advocating for not voting:

              Don't try to twist into advocacy for not voting.

              But then, what should I expect from someone with poor grammar skills:

              and we can nominate whoever we want.

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              lib·er·tar·i·an·ism ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/ noun: Magical thinking that useful idiots mistake for serious political theory
              • (Score: 0, Troll) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 17 2018, @10:32PM (2 children)

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday January 17 2018, @10:32PM (#623868) Journal

                Well, if that's your hang up, have a nice day :-)

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @03:29AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @03:29AM (#623991)

                  Beep boop!

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:35AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:35AM (#625035)

                  All those down mods.. what as asshole! Of course you know, since you have nothing to say, you can go fuck yourself.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:32AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:32AM (#625033)

          Well, obviously there's a moderator out there shilling for *business as usual*. He's a fucking idiot. Eh, whaddya gonna do? Fuck ya!

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 17 2018, @07:36PM (2 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday January 17 2018, @07:36PM (#623742) Journal

    There is little to nothing to distinguish them.

    And they'll keep repeating this lie even in a thread about 100% of Dems trying to do the right thing while 98% of the Reps try to do the wrong thing.

    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 17 2018, @10:36PM

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday January 17 2018, @10:36PM (#623870) Journal

      I guess you are more than welcome to continue playing your *good cop/bad cop* soap opera. We have alternatives. Their viability totally depends on your choice to try them.

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      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday January 18 2018, @07:52AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 18 2018, @07:52AM (#624050) Journal

      And they'll keep repeating this lie even in a thread about 100% of Dems trying to do the right thing while 98% of the Reps try to do the wrong thing.

      To add to fustakrakich's reply, the roles were reversed a few years ago. Some people have been consistent no matter whether their side was in power or not, but that wasn't many.