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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday January 18 2018, @12:35AM   Printer-friendly
from the now-with-ponies dept.

Mozilla is asking for feedback about Thunderbird and threatening a redesign. Thunderbird is the most feature-rich of the GUI mail clients, but as a result also has a lot of cruft. The goal of the survey is to learn what Thunderbird users think about the current design, what are the biggest drawbacks, what potential changes should there be, and so on. The claim is that the information will be considered before any actual changes are made to the program itself.

See also Bryan Lunduke's interview with newly fledged Thunderbird developer Ryan Sypes about future directions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BQugHIccTI

So if you rely on Thunderbird for any part of your work flow, speak up now before it ends up unusable trash like M$ Outlook or Apple Mail.


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @03:05AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @03:05AM (#623982)

    Pick the rightmost option, the 7, for everything about the old UI. Pick the leftmost option, the 1, for everything about the new UI.

    Oh yeah, the old one is so simple and modern and exciting! The new one is boring, obsolete, and confusing!

    There are open-ended questions. We should all demand these features:

    1. Restore the original threading algorithm: https://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html [jwz.org]

    2. Allow full traditional control of the Debian bug system, including easy insertion of the non-standard email header.

    3. Allow reliable and easy sending of patches to the linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org mailing list. This means not fucking with whitespace at all. Don't word-wrap. Don't do HTML. Don't convert between tabs and spaces. Don't remove spaces from the ends of the lines. Don't remove empty lines from the end of the email. Don't MIME encode anything.

    4. Allow forcing UTF-8, latin-1, or ASCII. Allow forcing just-send-8bit behavior.

    5. Fully support both types of X11 copy-and-paste operations. Old-style is highlight to copy, then middle click to paste. New-style is Control-C to copy a selection and Control-V to paste.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @02:12PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @02:12PM (#624131)

    Pick the rightmost option, the 7, for everything about the old UI. Pick the leftmost option, the 1, for everything about the new UI.

    That's too obvious, and too easy to filter out. The important thing is to be consistently more on the right for the old design than for the new design.

  • (Score: 2) by dry on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:47PM

    by dry (223) on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:47PM (#624287) Journal

    Most of what you list can be accomplished with old style add-ons. And Thunderbird correctly supports copy and paste with the correct ctrl-insert and shift-insert, no need to copy Apple.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:49PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:49PM (#624289)

    Should be "Swipe right if you think it is exciting" and "Swipe left if you think it is boring"