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Ex-CIA officer arrested for retaining classified information
A former Central Intelligence Agency officer was arrested at a U.S. airport on Monday night in connection with charges that he illegally retained highly classified information, the U.S. Justice Department said Tuesday.
Jerry Chun Shing Lee, a U.S. citizen who now lives in Hong Kong, used to maintain a top secret clearance and began working for the CIA in 1994.
The Justice Department said that in 2012, FBI agents searched his hotel rooms during trips to Virginia and Hawaii. They discovered he had two small books containing handwritten information on details such as the true names and numbers of spy recruits and covert CIA employees.
Ex-C.I.A. Officer Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants Is Arrested
A former C.I.A. officer suspected by investigators of helping China dismantle United States spying operations and identify informants has been arrested, the Justice Department said on Tuesday. The collapse of the spy network was one of the American government's worst intelligence failures in recent years.
You may remember this story: CIA Informants Imprisoned and Killed in China From 2010 to 2012
Also at BBC, SCMP, and Washington Post (archive).
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @08:38PM (28 children)
That's nice, but I'm pretty sure War in the context of the Constitution refers to *military* war, which, since China is a sovereign nation, would require a declaration of war from Congress. Which it hasn't issued.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 19 2018, @02:17AM (27 children)
What a narrow minded view. And, what about fifth generation warfare? You're also incapable of understanding that Islam is at war with the world?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @02:53AM (6 children)
We're talking legal actions, so I provided my opinion on the laws. Which is narrow, since that's how laws are supposed to be viewed.
Islam isn't at war with the world. Some Muslims are attacking groups that they think are, or have a history of, interfering with their homelands, or religion, or sacred sites. Which, while that does cover the USA and most of Europe, is not the whole world. Islam may have an evangelical component that encourages Muslims to try and convert the world, but so does Christianity. Which, by the way, did a fair job of attacking most of the world itself not that long ago, even the bits that weren't interfering with the homelands, religion, or sacred sites of any Christians.
I also don't think there's a war on crime, drugs, minorities, immigrants, men, women, or whatever the headlines and political rhetoric du jour is.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 19 2018, @03:08AM (5 children)
What a load of horse shit. Warfare has moved so far beyond you and your legal definitions, that you are left floundering like a fish out of water. Go look up "asymmetric warfare", and see if you can get a clue. While you and the rest if the flounder are busy reading and interpreting law, Islam and China will wax your asses using methods that you don't even understand. China has a 5000 year history from which to pull inspiration, and the Muslims are just vicious bastards with many imaginative ways of causing death.
What that all means is, there won't BE a declaration of war.
Remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnJFhuOWgXg [youtube.com] Gil actually had some clues.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @03:33PM (4 children)
Maybe, but the Constitution hasn't been altered. And that is where treason is defined. So if you want to execute anyone for treason then they have to have broken the Constitutional definition of treason and be convicted for it, which requires two witness to the overt act or a free confession in open court. What this guy did doesn't match the definition.
So are Christians. Check any torture museum. Part of being human.
Speaking of history, you should read up on the history of the Caliphate and the STEM advances that came out of it, like algebra.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 19 2018, @04:13PM (3 children)
You've been drinking the Kool-Aid, I see. ARABS are credited with the invention of algebra. MUSLIMS, not so much. (what, you thought "Arab" and "Muslim were synonyms?) The roots of algebra go back much further than Islam does. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra#History [wikipedia.org]
If you're going to make false claims of Islam creating STEM field things, then all of us Americans can feel justified in claiming to be first at every damned thing. Hell, we invented SEX!! All the rest of you are descended from asexual protoplasm, or something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra#History [wikipedia.org]
Now, if you want something that Islam can actually be credited with - they DID, jointly with the rest of Arabia, preserve most of the world's knowledge while the pigs in Europe were wallowing in filth. Of course, that presumes that the "west" is the world. Asia had their own thing going on at the time, and China didn't suffer a dark ages, either.
Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī was indeed Muslim, but he built upon the works of other people. He could have stated that he stood upon the shoulders of giants, if he were humble enough.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @04:33PM (2 children)
try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Ingenious_Devices [wikipedia.org] That definitely came out of the Caliphate.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 19 2018, @04:38PM (1 child)
Try this then - http://gatesofvienna.net/2013/08/how-muslims-did-not-invent-algebra/#content [gatesofvienna.net] And, scroll on down to the comments - Dave nailed it, on August 7, 2013 at 5:45, the second comment after the article.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @04:51PM
The Book of Ingenious Devices has nothing to do with Algebra. I freely admit that I was wrong and that mathematicians in the Caliphate did not originate algebra and were not the only ones working developing it.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday January 19 2018, @06:09AM (19 children)
Shirley, O mighty and wise Runaway1234, you refer to fifth grade warfare? You know, where prepubescent politicians shoot spit-balls at each other and pretend that they are actually doing something that makes sense to something? No, your brain has be corroded by you time in the US Military. Do you not notice that the craziest Trump cabinet members are former military? Flynn, Zinke? MKULTRA was not just inflicted on innocent civilians and suspected spys. That Hypno-toad you claimed to have encountered in Venice? CIA. And now you are totally incapable of rational thought, and you find yourself inexorably drawn to Faux News, just like the Donald himself. Tell us, Runaway, do you do McDonalds? Just like Trump? And are you not acting all crazy, paranoid, irrational and uninformed, just like the Trumpster? Don't you think, THEY ARE PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE MCDONALDS!!!! OMG!!!
So, seriously, Runaway, you are way out of your league, way above your pay grade. You do not know enough to even comment on such matters, except that SoylentNews allows you, and everyone's attempt to signal to you that you are embarrassing yourself with such ignorant, if not illegal under international law and tantamount to war crimes AND blatant and irregardless TREASON against the United States of America. I am truly sorry for your service, if you are actually a vet and not a stolen valor asshole, since it has done you, or American, no good what so ever.
Love and kisses, aristarchus.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 19 2018, @04:14PM (18 children)
If you're going to act like the playground retard, I don't have the time for you, Ari. Fifth generation warfare. Look it up.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Friday January 19 2018, @04:25PM (17 children)
You better make time, Runaway! Of course I am familiar with "fifth generation warfare". But it is just like Web2.0 or 5G, a marketing term and not something real. War has been illegal, except in cases of immedidate national self-defense, since the UN Charter was signed. But various Military-industrial complexes are still searching for a budget-justifying enemy, and making the case that war is good for business. Mercenaries. Sorry that they brainwashed you, bro!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 19 2018, @04:48PM (16 children)
And, the Chinese are laughing their asses off at the ignorant Greek. You do have a clue, in regards to the Military-industrial complex. Maybe you should use it. Why don't you run along, and spend some time with Sun Tzu. He had some things to say about fifth generation warfare, if you are astute enough to understand them. He was probably the first to understand asymmetric warfare, but I wouldn't bet a lot of money on that. Sun Tzu, at one time, was a novice, sitting at the feet of the then-recognized masters. None of us alive today can say which of his ideas are original, and which are borrowed from the giants, on whose shoulders he stood.
Meanwhile - let us dispense with the European code of chivalry, and their concept of war. The rest of the world doesn't recognize that code. If we adhere to that code, our asses will be grass, and China will be the lawnmower, while Islam acts as the lawn roller.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @04:56PM (6 children)
And if don't adhere to that code then we won't be us anymore.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 19 2018, @05:23PM (4 children)
Oh, my! We won't be us anymore!! That's why when I was five, I refused to learn how to spell my name. "But, Mama, if I learn to spell, I won't just be ME anymore!" In fact, the wisest of us refuse to be potty trained. "If I poop in the water, it won't be the same, and I won't be ME anymore!" And, let's all just refuse to die, because, like, man, when you're dead, you can't be you anymore either.
Maybe you've been exposed to the idea that civilization is but a thin veneer that we plaster over real life? I don't hold wikipedia out as a final authority, but it's a good enough place to start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veneer_theory [wikipedia.org]
I will opt for survival, first, then I'll worry about who I have become. And, if you can only understand that you are talking about survival, you'll do the same. There is lots of time afterward to regret our "deplorable" actions, while we watch the grand children playing on the lawn. Just ask all those chivalrous knights who helped to persecute the witches, pagans, druids, Jacobites, and all the others the Church declared to be "fair game".
Heresy, you say? (big cheshire cat grin)
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @05:53PM (3 children)
And that is precisely what the various fanatics are hoping you'll do, since it plays into their propaganda and against our stated principles. Also, if your enemies are so bad, what's the point of surviving if you act just like them?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 19 2018, @06:19PM (2 children)
Well, it's like this: While fighting the monsters, I may become the monster, but when all the other monsters are dead, there will be no one to call me a monster.
Enough smartassery - seriously, WTF good does your "civilized" nonsense do, when the barbarians have overrun you, raped and killed your wife, raped and enslaved your daughters, killed your sons, and drink your finest beverages from your hollowed out skull?
Or, I don't know, maybe you can just convert to Islam. Or, just sit and stare into the abyss? Moohamed will probably stare back at you thought.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @07:04PM (1 child)
So you want to revert to barbarism? Go right ahead. Just leave the country first, please, and join all your other barbarians.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 19 2018, @07:14PM
Revert to barbarism? That isn't exactly what I said. I said that I would resort to barbaric ways to preserve a hope that tomorrow's generation would survive. Remember the part about reflecting on lamentable actions, while watching the grandchildren playing on the lawn? Civilization is a facade - and sometimes, a little maintenance is in order so that other people can enjoy that facade.
Which reminds me. Do you like a good pork chop? Bacon? Or, how 'bout a hamburger? You do realize, some barbarian had to kill the critter that you enjoy eating? Some barbarian, such as myself? I'm amused at people who couldn't kill a creature, but enjoy eating them. They are at least as amusing those who enjoy their civilization, but can't understand what may be required to preserve that civilization.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots, and tyrants. It doesn't take an act of congress, after all. In fact, the blood of congressmen and lawyers would make the tree healthier!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @08:30PM
There are levels of existence that Runaway is prepared to accept. He is a coward, in principle, in that he has principles, but if you don't like them, he has others. He is ready to jettison western culture in order to defend western culture from a boogey man Islamophobic threat he got from Faux News.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday January 19 2018, @06:45PM (8 children)
Giants? Prior to 孙子? Nice try at displaying erudition, Runaway! But you have only once again made clear you have no idea what you are talking about. Guess will just have to forcibly convert you to Islam, get you all gay married, and do the whole "trans-racial" operation upon you.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 19 2018, @07:15PM (7 children)
Molon labe, bitch.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday January 19 2018, @08:26PM (6 children)
Μορον Λαβία,σκύλα'
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 19 2018, @09:11PM (5 children)
Your labia is a bitch?
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday January 19 2018, @10:16PM (4 children)
Must hurt, only knowing one language, and that one not very well.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 20 2018, @02:46AM (3 children)
I'll bet it hurts a lot more to be an arrogant ass. You've forgotten what the meaning and purpose of communication is. Showing off is just ignorant. And, I'm sorry for your labia - not.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday January 20 2018, @03:59AM (2 children)
Runaway, I am sorry it has come to this, but: "I know you are, but what am I?" You were the one showing off. Unfortunately what you were showing off was your ignorance. I have tried, this and many times before, to warn you. But you do not listen, because you are one arrogant hillbilly son of a gun! Moron labia, yours, biatch!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 20 2018, @03:02PM (1 child)
You wouldn't know a hillbilly if he walked up and bit you on your ass. Or a cowby, or much of anything else. And, truth be told, I have more respect for those various uncouth rednecks, than I have for you. It's amazing how much philosophy you can learn from old men and women in the hills, or in cowtowns, on construction sites, and even in truckstops. All of that from people who may or may not have ever read any of the recognized philosophers.
You? You're proud and arrogant, and you can't learn from anyone except the masters. Unfortunately, you haven't even learned from them.
Now, I think it's time for you to urinate up a vertical length of hemp.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday January 20 2018, @11:40PM
Finally, Runaway, you say something that is true! I have been around much longer than you, and have lived in many more places and travelled much more than you, so of course I know this. And I have learned much from them. You, on the other hand, seem not to have! I criticize you not because you are hillbilly, but because you are an arrogant ignorant hillbilly who is constantly posting misinformation on things you misunderstand.