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5 shuttle buses chartered by Google, Apple apparently vandalized on I-280, possibly with pellet gun
Shuttle buses carrying Apple and Google employees were apparently vandalized Tuesday while traveling to and from the South Bay, officials said. No injuries were reported.
Five buses driving in the northbound and southbound directions of Interstate 280 between Highway 84 and Highway 85 were damaged during the Tuesday morning and evening commute, said California Highway Patrol Officer Art Montiel. Four buses were chartered by Apple and one by Google, the officer said. The Apple campus is located off I-280 in Cupertino. Google headquarters is in Mountain View off Highway 101.
According to Montiel, several bus windows were damaged and cracked, possibly by pellet guns, BB guns or rocks.
According to an article on TechCrunch
In response, we've learned that Apple has rerouted the bus routes for employees living in San Francisco, adding 30-45 minutes of commute time each way, as the company works with authorities to see what exactly is going on.
Also at The Guardian.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @05:41PM (40 children)
Hey billionaire scum, since you outright refuse to pay your taxes and you outright refuse to create jobs, how about you pay for a basic income. The alternative is we will murder you all. Your choice.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @05:58PM (19 children)
Yes, we will kill you because you have a job that we can't do. Everyone who does jobs that I can't do needs to move out. Whoever is left will have to hire me because I am entitled to that job.
The "have-nots" are quite the entitled set, now aren't they? "I'm not moving to where the jobs are, I DEMAND you bring me jobs that I can do HERE!!!"
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:16PM (3 children)
You imply the have-nots can't do tech jobs, and you have no idea what you are talking about. The billionaire tech giants refuse to hire locals who do have the tech skills and can do the tech jobs. H1Bs are just cheaper to hire and cheaper to bus in.
There isn't any place where US citizens can move to in search of jobs when employers refuse to employ US citizens.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by HiThere on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:38PM (1 child)
Don't assume that the people being bussed in are H1B's. Most local papers say that they are causing the rents to raise and gentrifying neighborhoods that poorer people have been living in. But, yes, there is a *lot* of local resentment.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:56PM
Let's bus the poor people to the coal mines. Problem solved.
(Score: 2) by NewNic on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:53PM
These buses are bringing people from San Francisco. San Francisco is one of the most expensive cities in the USA.
Those low wage H1-Bs can't afford to live in SF.
lib·er·tar·i·an·ism ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/ noun: Magical thinking that useful idiots mistake for serious political theory
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:16PM (2 children)
Your thinking is entirely constrained by the capitalist mode of production.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:20PM (1 child)
I will gladly pay you never for a burrito now.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:35PM
Stand and deliver! Your lunch money or your lunch!
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Thursday January 18 2018, @07:27PM (11 children)
You must be under the mistaken impression that (A) these folks can easily move to another area, and (B) they have the skillset that the jobs that exist in these other places are looking for. For instance, unemployment in North Dakota is quite low due to the oil business, but that doesn't mean that somebody has the ability to sell all their belongings and/or rent a moving truck and somehow get to Bismarck and immediately get a job as a roughneck and move into a nice apartment. And remember, they very likely don't have easy Internet access either, or the skills they'd need to quickly organize all that online before the public library tells them to go away.
The "have-nots" think they ought to have some sort of viable way to keep a roof over their head and food on their plate. I don't consider that unreasonable. If I were in charge of things, what I'd do is suggest to the companies in North Dakota that are having a hard time finding people to be actively recruiting and training people from Detroit, San Francisco, and other places with lots of people desperate for work, complete with relocation packages and such. That's not happening, because companies don't like investing in their employees anymore.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @09:06PM (8 children)
People more and more will not move to where the jobs are (it is easy to Google and find that same article written almost yearly for decades now). Mobility for employment has been in steady decline over the last several decades. They're facing that in the Rust Belt now. A good chunk of people are not going through retraining education that is offered to them because they don't want to move to get a job. Moving is greatly unsettling to a family to be sure, but if your manufacturing job is gone, don't expect much sympathy if your unemployment plan is to sit around watching Fox News and bitching about why can't someone bring back your 1950's-era job (not to mention complaining about all those "welfare queens" in the big Liberal Cities who spend all day sitting around collecting their money for not working; the irony is very strong here).
In the 70's the inner city poor started moving out towards the suburbs around many major cities. People in the suburbs didn't want them moving in because the property values were falling (but if you opposed them, you were a racist). Twenty to thirty years later people are moving back and "gentrifying" the inner cities (but opposing that doesn't make you a racist). San Fran is going through their own version of this, but instead of there being a race angle to it, there is a class angle because now even the whites are being pushed out by other whites. Too many people out there think "remember that one year with Haight-Ashbury? That was SO cool. I'm angry that it can't stay like that forever." Populations ebb and flow with the time and economy.
I agree that companies, and governments, could and should do more to get people to move (tax write offs for selling your house at a loss, etc.), but it is quite arrogant to not only expect, but demand, that the rest of society bends to your will and wishes.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @09:13PM
After I submitted the above post, I saw this one [soylentnews.org] which essentially sums up that attitude better than I could explain it.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Thexalon on Friday January 19 2018, @12:56AM (6 children)
That's a not-very-accurate over-simplification of what happened, and is still happening. But the main driving force of all of it is the desire of white people to be far away from black people.
In the early 20th century, a lot of black people moved from the south (where many black families had been since slavery) up to cities in the north, because there was better work than sharecropping available to them. Thanks to rental discrimination and later Federal Housing Authority policies, they were forced to live only in particular areas of town, like Harlem, and as they moved in the white people moved away. By the 1950's, cities were divided up into white areas and black areas via redlining. Suburbs were built specifically to be whites-only areas away from all the black people, enforced by the developers and housing covenants, and the FHA backed bank loans to white people who wanted to move there. In the late 1970's, the Community Reinvestment Act was passed in an attempt to undo redlining and give black people a chance of buying homes, but that law wasn't really enforced until the late 1990's (I worked with somebody who's job was to catch banks not following the law, but that person didn't work for the government, they worked for a non-profit). What changed in the late 1990's is that instead of refusing loans outright, they could now push black families into predatory subprime loans, which they did. Black families, though, were willing to take up the chance to become homeowners for the first time, and did.
As far as why black people moved towards the suburbs, it was largely for the same reasons white people usually cite for preferring the suburbs: Lower crime rates, better schools, nicer stores, etc.
None of which explains the following: Why is it that when black people move into a suburb, when nothing else has changed, it's now seen as a "bad area" and property values drop? There are 3 answers, basically:
1. A lot of white people don't want their kids going to school with black kids.
2. A lot of white people think black people necessarily bring crime.
3. Enough people think 1 & 2 that the property-value drop becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as people sell their homes trying to get out before its value drops.
You'll notice the first two answers are indeed racist.
That's still going on, too - I, a white guy, was living in a suburb just a year ago that's about 50-50 black-white, and when I mentioned that a lot of well-meaning white people were saying things like "But isn't it unsafe?" and "I thought that was a bad neighborhood". The thing is, it was and still is a pleasant place to live, and the rate of violent crime is lower than many of the other areas nearby. I routinely walked around my neighborhood without anybody giving me the slightest bit of trouble. The black folks around were engaged in such dangerous activities as mowing the lawn, throwing around a football, going to work or school, buying groceries, taking part in church socials, and sometimes going to get ice cream in the summer. But because they were black, a lot of white people were afraid of the area.
The inner cities also aren't quite as dangerous as myth would have it, and the crime rates now are about what they were in the 1950's. The narratives a lot of folks are telling themselves about what inner cities are like have more to do with the crack wars of the late 1980's than what's actually going on now.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @01:54AM (1 child)
It's less about race than it is about class/wealth. Not even poor people want to live next to poor people (and with good reason). Blacks tend to be poorer than whites, so you can make it a racial thing if you want, but that tends to not be the real issue.
(Score: 2) by t-3 on Saturday January 20 2018, @02:41PM
Race is TOTALLY the issue. I grew up in an area that started experiencing rapid growth in the last ~15-20 years. It WAS rural and 100% white, but now it's very diverse. I often get asked "weren't you scared? I heard that's a bad area" by crackerjack whites. No, it's not a bad area, it's relatively well-to-do and has almost no crime. I'm incredibly glad I went to school there and was exposed to blacks, arabs, asians, etc etc because so many people are scared of the world for ignorance.
(Score: 2) by Hawkwind on Friday January 19 2018, @03:40AM (1 child)
Correction on this part, the black migration out of the south occurred from the about 1915 through the 70s and also included the west (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_(African_American) [wikipedia.org]. An engaging book on this topic is "The Warmth of Other Suns" [powells.com] by Isbael Wilkerson. Also it included more than sharecroppers.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday January 19 2018, @05:47PM
I was focused more on the 1916-1930 period, when what became the black neighborhoods of cities like New York, Cleveland, and Chicago were first established in a major way. You're right that there were waves after that.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @05:05AM (1 child)
Thanks to rental discrimination and later Federal Housing Authority policies, they were forced to live only in particular areas of town
Pacifica Radio presenter Mitch Jeserich has a quasi-daily program that is often very good on History topics.
Coincidently, he had a show on this topic today.
The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America -- Richard Rothstein [kpfa.org]
22MB MP3, available indefinitely [kpfa.org]
These guys have the same thing for about half the bandwidth/storage space, but it's only available until mid-March.
KPFK's MP3 [kpfk.org]
Content starts at ~7:00, after an intro and a newsbreak.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @05:12AM
I had already updated my bookmark and posted a link to next Monday's show by mistake.
Correct link: KPFK's MP3 [kpfk.org]
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday January 18 2018, @11:50PM (1 child)
The only skillset I could deduce from TFS is hitting a bus the size of a barn with BB/pellets.
Wondering now where such a skill pays a living wage?
(Grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 4, Funny) by Thexalon on Friday January 19 2018, @05:48PM
Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by IndigoFreak on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:04PM (7 children)
Makes sense. Billionaires always ride in buses. No way this is targeting rank and file employees. Yep, definitely targeting the decision making people.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:18PM (1 child)
Blow up the buses, kill the employees, and then who will want to work for the billionaires?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @02:40AM
Or you can just look in the mirror and realize you're a useless nobody. Maybe you can still change, it's not too late. It's either that or the cops eventually find you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:19PM (3 children)
The billionaires are hidden behind high walls.
For now.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by NewNic on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:21PM (2 children)
Those walls are only going to get higher while people keep voting R.
lib·er·tar·i·an·ism ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/ noun: Magical thinking that useful idiots mistake for serious political theory
(Score: 2) by fritsd on Thursday January 18 2018, @07:00PM
San Gimignano della Torre. What an "interesting" society to live in.
https://www.tripsavvy.com/medieval-towers-in-italy-1508474 [tripsavvy.com]
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @08:41PM
orly? last i looked the masturbaters of the universe were all liberals.
(Score: 2) by ilsa on Friday January 19 2018, @10:15PM
You're assuming that these actions are... rational isn't the right word here. But if you're a person who's been "fucked by the man", then you're going to target whoever you can get access to. Can't reach the billionaires? Go after the billionaire's cronies because they're still "part of the problem".
(Score: 5, Funny) by nobu_the_bard on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:14PM (10 children)
Throwing rocks at the employee transport buses for specific companies is entirely too small scale to accomplish anything constructive, whatever your stance is. Well unless maybe you're selling bus windows.
(Score: 2) by looorg on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:21PM (8 children)
I'm sure they'll escalate to IED:s some days, for some reason. Wasn't Apples new round office complex finished recently? Seem to recall it in one of the papers I read during my trainride to work today.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday January 18 2018, @06:31PM (4 children)
Apple employees could take refuge in their walled gardens. Secure enclaves.
Build a wall around the walled garden. With rounded corners. And make the people outside the wall pay for it.
I can understand why people might throw rocks at Apple buses, with rounded corners. Even FaceTwit. But Google? Google only brings wonderful goodness to our lives. And Google can do no evil. Their motto says so. And it must be the truth, because if it weren't that would be evil.
What doesn't kill me makes me weaker for next time.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday January 18 2018, @09:36PM (2 children)
Build a wall around the walled garden. With rounded corners. And make the people outside the wall pay for it.
The people outside the wall are *happily* paying for it, by buying overpriced Apple iDevices in droves.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday January 18 2018, @10:04PM
That sounds like people *inside* the wall(ed garden) who buy Apple products.
The people outside the walled garden are buying the non-apple products. Also, in droves.
But Apple would like everyone outside their wall (ecosystem) to also pay Apple because Apple doesn't make enough money from its overpriced boutique devices.
What doesn't kill me makes me weaker for next time.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday January 18 2018, @10:06PM
Apple is also repatriating money at a temporarily lower tax rate, and has announced that it will build a new headquarters somewhere (like Amazon). The location they choose will surely give them tax breaks and other incentives.
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @10:45PM
Bucky Fuller pointed out many years ago that it's crazy to commute to work -- perfectly good living space is left vacant all night in typical office buildings. While I understand the desire for a private residence for a family, all the singles that work for Apple (et al) could easily live in their office buildings, with just some minor adaptations.
There is plenty of history for this, early industrial revolution factory owners built residential housing for their workers on site (since there were no established commuting vehicles). I believe this is still common in lower wage countries.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @08:56PM (1 child)
Fuck an IED, bring out the IEEMP's. That's how you really fuck up their day.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday January 18 2018, @11:55PM
Just make sure to use some helium balloons, to deliver the charges up in the clouds their computers reside
(grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @05:26AM
That thing reminds of the Farpoint Station in the pilot episode of ST:TNG. [google.com]
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @01:11AM
It's in the news. And we are talking about it. It is having the desired effect.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Thursday January 18 2018, @08:40PM
In cold blood. In your luxury buses, where you buspool to your daily billionaire grind. (?)