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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday January 18 2018, @05:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the maybe-someone-doesn't-like-the-color dept.

5 shuttle buses chartered by Google, Apple apparently vandalized on I-280, possibly with pellet gun

Shuttle buses carrying Apple and Google employees were apparently vandalized Tuesday while traveling to and from the South Bay, officials said. No injuries were reported.

Five buses driving in the northbound and southbound directions of Interstate 280 between Highway 84 and Highway 85 were damaged during the Tuesday morning and evening commute, said California Highway Patrol Officer Art Montiel. Four buses were chartered by Apple and one by Google, the officer said. The Apple campus is located off I-280 in Cupertino. Google headquarters is in Mountain View off Highway 101.

According to Montiel, several bus windows were damaged and cracked, possibly by pellet guns, BB guns or rocks.

According to an article on TechCrunch

In response, we've learned that Apple has rerouted the bus routes for employees living in San Francisco, adding 30-45 minutes of commute time each way, as the company works with authorities to see what exactly is going on.

Also at The Guardian.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @09:06PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @09:06PM (#624395)

    That's not happening, because companies don't like investing in their employees anymore.

    People more and more will not move to where the jobs are (it is easy to Google and find that same article written almost yearly for decades now). Mobility for employment has been in steady decline over the last several decades. They're facing that in the Rust Belt now. A good chunk of people are not going through retraining education that is offered to them because they don't want to move to get a job. Moving is greatly unsettling to a family to be sure, but if your manufacturing job is gone, don't expect much sympathy if your unemployment plan is to sit around watching Fox News and bitching about why can't someone bring back your 1950's-era job (not to mention complaining about all those "welfare queens" in the big Liberal Cities who spend all day sitting around collecting their money for not working; the irony is very strong here).

    In the 70's the inner city poor started moving out towards the suburbs around many major cities. People in the suburbs didn't want them moving in because the property values were falling (but if you opposed them, you were a racist). Twenty to thirty years later people are moving back and "gentrifying" the inner cities (but opposing that doesn't make you a racist). San Fran is going through their own version of this, but instead of there being a race angle to it, there is a class angle because now even the whites are being pushed out by other whites. Too many people out there think "remember that one year with Haight-Ashbury? That was SO cool. I'm angry that it can't stay like that forever." Populations ebb and flow with the time and economy.

    I agree that companies, and governments, could and should do more to get people to move (tax write offs for selling your house at a loss, etc.), but it is quite arrogant to not only expect, but demand, that the rest of society bends to your will and wishes.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @09:13PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 18 2018, @09:13PM (#624400)

    Too many people out there think "remember that one year with Haight-Ashbury? That was SO cool. I'm angry that it can't stay like that forever." Populations ebb and flow with the time and economy.

    I agree that companies, and governments, could and should do more to get people to move (tax write offs for selling your house at a loss, etc.), but it is quite arrogant to not only expect, but demand, that the rest of society bends to your will and wishes.

    After I submitted the above post, I saw this one [soylentnews.org] which essentially sums up that attitude better than I could explain it.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Thexalon on Friday January 19 2018, @12:56AM (6 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Friday January 19 2018, @12:56AM (#624502)

    In the 70's the inner city poor started moving out towards the suburbs around many major cities. People in the suburbs didn't want them moving in because the property values were falling (but if you opposed them, you were a racist).

    That's a not-very-accurate over-simplification of what happened, and is still happening. But the main driving force of all of it is the desire of white people to be far away from black people.

    In the early 20th century, a lot of black people moved from the south (where many black families had been since slavery) up to cities in the north, because there was better work than sharecropping available to them. Thanks to rental discrimination and later Federal Housing Authority policies, they were forced to live only in particular areas of town, like Harlem, and as they moved in the white people moved away. By the 1950's, cities were divided up into white areas and black areas via redlining. Suburbs were built specifically to be whites-only areas away from all the black people, enforced by the developers and housing covenants, and the FHA backed bank loans to white people who wanted to move there. In the late 1970's, the Community Reinvestment Act was passed in an attempt to undo redlining and give black people a chance of buying homes, but that law wasn't really enforced until the late 1990's (I worked with somebody who's job was to catch banks not following the law, but that person didn't work for the government, they worked for a non-profit). What changed in the late 1990's is that instead of refusing loans outright, they could now push black families into predatory subprime loans, which they did. Black families, though, were willing to take up the chance to become homeowners for the first time, and did.

    As far as why black people moved towards the suburbs, it was largely for the same reasons white people usually cite for preferring the suburbs: Lower crime rates, better schools, nicer stores, etc.

    None of which explains the following: Why is it that when black people move into a suburb, when nothing else has changed, it's now seen as a "bad area" and property values drop? There are 3 answers, basically:
    1. A lot of white people don't want their kids going to school with black kids.
    2. A lot of white people think black people necessarily bring crime.
    3. Enough people think 1 & 2 that the property-value drop becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as people sell their homes trying to get out before its value drops.
    You'll notice the first two answers are indeed racist.

    That's still going on, too - I, a white guy, was living in a suburb just a year ago that's about 50-50 black-white, and when I mentioned that a lot of well-meaning white people were saying things like "But isn't it unsafe?" and "I thought that was a bad neighborhood". The thing is, it was and still is a pleasant place to live, and the rate of violent crime is lower than many of the other areas nearby. I routinely walked around my neighborhood without anybody giving me the slightest bit of trouble. The black folks around were engaged in such dangerous activities as mowing the lawn, throwing around a football, going to work or school, buying groceries, taking part in church socials, and sometimes going to get ice cream in the summer. But because they were black, a lot of white people were afraid of the area.

    The inner cities also aren't quite as dangerous as myth would have it, and the crime rates now are about what they were in the 1950's. The narratives a lot of folks are telling themselves about what inner cities are like have more to do with the crack wars of the late 1980's than what's actually going on now.

    --
    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @01:54AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @01:54AM (#624508)

      It's less about race than it is about class/wealth. Not even poor people want to live next to poor people (and with good reason). Blacks tend to be poorer than whites, so you can make it a racial thing if you want, but that tends to not be the real issue.

      • (Score: 2) by t-3 on Saturday January 20 2018, @02:41PM

        by t-3 (4907) on Saturday January 20 2018, @02:41PM (#625161)

        Race is TOTALLY the issue. I grew up in an area that started experiencing rapid growth in the last ~15-20 years. It WAS rural and 100% white, but now it's very diverse. I often get asked "weren't you scared? I heard that's a bad area" by crackerjack whites. No, it's not a bad area, it's relatively well-to-do and has almost no crime. I'm incredibly glad I went to school there and was exposed to blacks, arabs, asians, etc etc because so many people are scared of the world for ignorance.

    • (Score: 2) by Hawkwind on Friday January 19 2018, @03:40AM (1 child)

      by Hawkwind (3531) on Friday January 19 2018, @03:40AM (#624557)

      In the early 20th century, a lot of black people moved from the south (where many black families had been since slavery) up to cities in the north, because there was better work than sharecropping available to them.

       
      Correction on this part, the black migration out of the south occurred from the about 1915 through the 70s and also included the west (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_(African_American) [wikipedia.org]. An engaging book on this topic is "The Warmth of Other Suns" [powells.com] by Isbael Wilkerson. Also it included more than sharecroppers.

      • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday January 19 2018, @05:47PM

        by Thexalon (636) on Friday January 19 2018, @05:47PM (#624790)

        I was focused more on the 1916-1930 period, when what became the black neighborhoods of cities like New York, Cleveland, and Chicago were first established in a major way. You're right that there were waves after that.

        --
        The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @05:05AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @05:05AM (#624578)

      Thanks to rental discrimination and later Federal Housing Authority policies, they were forced to live only in particular areas of town

      Pacifica Radio presenter Mitch Jeserich has a quasi-daily program that is often very good on History topics.

      Coincidently, he had a show on this topic today.
      The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America -- Richard Rothstein [kpfa.org]
      22MB MP3, available indefinitely [kpfa.org]

      These guys have the same thing for about half the bandwidth/storage space, but it's only available until mid-March.
      KPFK's MP3 [kpfk.org]

      Content starts at ~7:00, after an intro and a newsbreak.

      -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @05:12AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @05:12AM (#624581)

        I had already updated my bookmark and posted a link to next Monday's show by mistake.
        Correct link: KPFK's MP3 [kpfk.org]

        -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]