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posted by janrinok on Friday January 19 2018, @09:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the questions,-questions,-questions dept.
An Anonymous Coward asks:

I'm putting this under security because i'd like to keep this a private server for family:

that said, I'm wondering if you fine people can help me with the best way to set up a web server in my house to host the files on my external hard drives for family members in other cities/countries while, again, keeping it private and secure over the internet.

I'm looking into ngrok for url handling, but am not sure exactly if this is the best way to go.

Can anyone save me time and possible heartache and failure and provide me (and possibly others) with a walk-through of which software to use. Would love to do something like free, but may have to get a paid unique domain from, say, ngrok, to make it easier for family members to connect up.

Help me, Obi Wan Kenobi... you're my only hope!


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bradley13 on Friday January 19 2018, @09:45PM (22 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Friday January 19 2018, @09:45PM (#624932) Homepage Journal

    Sorry, but - to me at least - it's really not clear what you're asking. You want a web server. On the Internet. But private. Huh?

    Do you want people to log into your network with a VPN, and then call up the web server? That kind of private? I've never heard of ngrok, but my 30 seconds of research give me the impression that it doesn't really make any sense. "Expose a local server behind a NAT or firewall to the internet" - WTF - why would you want to do such a thing?

    To me, it would make a lot more sense to put up a real webserver, in your DMZ, or otherwise on AWS. Put XAMPP on it, put a simple (OSS) CMS on top of that. Set it up to require a login, to get to the content. Outside your entwork - I mean, do you really trust Aunt Milly's and Uncle Joe-Bob's machines inside your firewall?

    If you really have to, you can set up a one-way autosync from your network to the web-server. However, it's also possible that you are overestimating people's interest in your latest selfies.

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    Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @09:52PM (16 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @09:52PM (#624937)

    At least you shared some mildly helpful info, I'm not shocked at your cringey editorializing though.

    • (Score: 2) by bradley13 on Friday January 19 2018, @09:53PM (15 children)

      by bradley13 (3053) on Friday January 19 2018, @09:53PM (#624938) Homepage Journal

      Hi Aristarchus, forget to log in?

      --
      Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @10:07PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @10:07PM (#624952)

        I'm on paramidol today, can't even find the login button! Maybe I should try out detramine, what cocktail do you keep handy bradley?

      • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday January 19 2018, @10:28PM (13 children)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Friday January 19 2018, @10:28PM (#624965) Journal

        Isn't me! I am not at all shocked at your editorializing, in fact, I more or less expected it. It does sadden me deeply, however.

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @10:35PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @10:35PM (#624967)

          You already said you weren't shocked, but at least you were able to expand with "it does sadden me deeply". Too many big words, you should be more Trumply and just #sad.

        • (Score: 2) by mrpg on Saturday January 20 2018, @03:09AM (11 children)

          by mrpg (5708) <{mrpg} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Saturday January 20 2018, @03:09AM (#625014) Homepage

          Don't let the bad people put you down.

          #freearistarchus!!!

          • (Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:11AM (10 children)

            by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:11AM (#625029) Journal

            That's two, two people with the #freearistarchus sig, so if three, three people were to walk in singing a bar of Alice's Restaurant [youtube.com], they might think it's a movement! And so it is! Join the #freearistarchus movement, and submit aristarchus submissions, and shovels and rakes and implements of destruction!! Fight Officer Obie!

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:40AM (6 children)

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:40AM (#625039) Homepage Journal

              You do remember what happens if only two of them do it through, right?

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              My rights don't end where your fear begins.
              • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday January 20 2018, @06:15AM (5 children)

                by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday January 20 2018, @06:15AM (#625063) Journal

                Of course I do! Perhaps you are a bit young to remember what 1967 was like, Buzzard! People did what they could to avoid the draft, and stop the war. So when they don't ask, you tell, and they don't take either of you! But this is no longer an issue, so I glossed over it.

                • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday January 20 2018, @11:31AM (3 children)

                  by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday January 20 2018, @11:31AM (#625126) Homepage Journal

                  Kinda unfortunate, that. Used to be if you weren't the type of fellow who felt serving was the thing for you, you only had to mention that you quite enjoyed it up the ass and you could go on your merry way. Nowadays though there's no dodging out even if you do get regular protein injections and have the pornhub links to prove it. Good thing there'll never ever be another draft, I guess.

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                  My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @09:56PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @09:56PM (#625340)

                    In case it hasn't been said in a while, you are a terrible human being. Whatever small positive qualities you possess are dwarfed by your tiny cock complex.

                    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 21 2018, @12:59AM (1 child)

                      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 21 2018, @12:59AM (#625447) Homepage Journal

                      Son, if all it takes to send you into a rage fit is a little joke, your ass is not ready for adult life or the Internet.

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                      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 22 2018, @12:19PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 22 2018, @12:19PM (#626044)

                        By choice of her insults, my guess is that person you were replying to is not addressed as "son" by anyone.

                • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @12:40PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @12:40PM (#625144)

                  People did what they could to avoid the draft, and stop the war.

                  ...then there were those who -didn't- want to stop the war--but did dodge the draft.

                  Drumpf comes immediately to mind.
                  He had "his own Vietnam", trying not to get VD while screwing co-eds and taking 4 student deferments and finally a bogus medical excuse.

                  Reactionary Chickenhawk Republican Ted Nugent has bragged that he stopped bathing and wore a diaper without changing that before he reported to the Selective Service office.

                  -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

            • (Score: 1, Troll) by Gaaark on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:46AM (2 children)

              by Gaaark (41) on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:46AM (#625040) Journal

              If one of the three people singing is Arlo Guthrie, it's really just two people. If you include yourself, it's not a movement.

              #sealaristarchusupforever!

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              --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
              • (Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Saturday January 20 2018, @06:18AM (1 child)

                by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday January 20 2018, @06:18AM (#625067) Journal

                Walled up, like Antigone and her cousin/boyfriend Hæmon, and left to die! Oh the tragedy! Tragedy, actually comes from the Greek τραγῳδία, which originally mean "goat song". I am sure Gaaaark can appreciate the Platinuminy!

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @12:47PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @12:47PM (#625146)

                  That dumb bitch.
                  Hey, if your boyfriend won't give up the crown when his term limit is up, he deserves to be killed and left for the crows to peck out his entrails.

                  -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by meustrus on Friday January 19 2018, @09:57PM

    by meustrus (4961) on Friday January 19 2018, @09:57PM (#624943)

    ngrok is for when you don't have a static IP or there are other unknown security measures you can't or don't want to dismantle just to open a single port.

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    If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @10:07PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @10:07PM (#624951)

    Use Plex media server. It will do most all the work for you. Will serve video photos music sound tracks whatever. Will try to open a port in firewall if you want to share externally You may need port foreword yourself. But it is well documented.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Appalbarry on Saturday January 20 2018, @12:32AM (2 children)

    by Appalbarry (66) on Saturday January 20 2018, @12:32AM (#624987) Journal

    One more vote for AWS (Amazon Web Services. [amazon.com]) Even though you'll eventually wind up paying a small amount each month, it's arguably the easiest way to set up a functioning web server in about five minutes. The great thing about using AWS is that if you screw up you can just shut down and start over from scratch - again, in a couple of minutes.

    If you're thinking Wordpress or Joomla or other garden variety CMSs, You can also check out Bitnami, [bitnami.com] who, for free, will set up the whole thing on AWS with almost no work on your part.

    In all seriousness, I can't imagine why anyone would go to the hassle of setting up a server at home, unless they're doing it for shits and giggles. If I can get Bitnami (or my hosting provider) to do an autoinstall in a couple of minutes it's well worth the few dollars a month that I spend.

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Saturday January 20 2018, @05:07AM

      by frojack (1554) on Saturday January 20 2018, @05:07AM (#625043) Journal

      For chist sake of course he's doing it for shits and giggles! Wake up.

      One months fee for Amazon web services cheapest package will buy you a complete Raspberry pi kit, and the do web servers out of the box!

      Seriously, what is your big fear! Everybody vaguely interested should do this once in their life. There's a hundred how-to pages on the web.

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      No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @06:12PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @06:12PM (#625226)

      mindless consumer just wants to click and buy.