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posted by takyon on Saturday January 20 2018, @05:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the limited-government dept.

After 10 PM EST on Friday, The U.S. Senate rejected a deal that would fund the U.S. government for another month:

Only five Democrats voted to advance the bill — Sens. Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.) and Claire McCaskill (Mo.), who are all up for reelection this year in states carried by President Trump in 2016 election, and newly-elected Sen. Doug Jones (D-Ala.).

Republicans were also not united, as Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Mike Lee (Utah) and Jeff Flake (Ariz.) also voted against advancing the legislation. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who is battling brain cancer, was absent.

The procedural vote remained open late Friday, though it needed 60 votes to pass and was well short of that number with 48 senators voting against it.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer continued to negotiate after the vote opened (archive), but no deal has been reached yet. As of midnight (5 minutes before this story went live), the government shutdown was in effect.

At Wikipedia: Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) and Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP). Government shutdowns in the United States.

 
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by TheGratefulNet on Saturday January 20 2018, @07:17AM (10 children)

    by TheGratefulNet (659) on Saturday January 20 2018, @07:17AM (#625091)

    republicans will rob you blind and tell you that its for your own good.

    when will people stop listening to CHURCHES who force people (basically, via mental games) to vote for the R's.

    this country seems to be hell bent on having people vote against their own best interest. because, jesus, or something....

    how fucking stupid this country really is. perhaps we really don't deserve to be a first world country. everything I've seen over the past decades kind of shows that.

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  • (Score: 2) by fishybell on Saturday January 20 2018, @09:29AM (1 child)

    by fishybell (3156) on Saturday January 20 2018, @09:29AM (#625108)

    because, jesus, or something....

    Dead babies...Dead Babies!...DEAD BABIES!!!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:54PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @04:54PM (#625194)

      Buttsecks!...buttsecks!... BUTTSECKS!!!

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Saturday January 20 2018, @11:51AM (1 child)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 20 2018, @11:51AM (#625133) Journal

    perhaps we really don't deserve to be a first world country

    No worries, mate, continue like this and you won't.

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @02:11PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @02:11PM (#625150)

      We haven't been a first-world country since we adopted the never forgive, never-forget mindset for our citizen's legal infractions. You can't claim you're a first-world country when you have a permanently and intentionally disadvantaged underclass of supposedly "free" citizens.

      "Shithole" is an excellent description of our social structure. Thanks, Donald.

      We're a turd-world country.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Saturday January 20 2018, @05:04PM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday January 20 2018, @05:04PM (#625200)

    It's the rot of a hedonistic empire... those in power have everything that the previous generation could imagine wanting, and more... just reaching higher because they can.

    All of this has happened before, and will happen again.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @09:14PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @09:14PM (#625304)

    I vote republican (well, never democrat) and don't listen to any church. I guess I can't possibly exist because I don't fit your stereotype. Oh well. I wish I existed. Anyway...

    This "people vote against their own best interest" thing is fascinating to me. You are so sure that you understand what is best for other people that you can't comprehend why they would legitimately make different choices than you do. You have to justify it in your mind with strange logic. Your enemy simply must be fooled into voting wrongly, or else they are evil. It couldn't possibly be that you yourself are fooled or evil.

    If it is in my best interest to vote myself more handouts, and we all do this, what is the end result? The economy collapses. Along the way we are promised goodies (free healthcare, high minimum wage, roofs over our heads, free college, and even literally a free lunch) but the end result is disaster. The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    It is downright selfish to vote yourself more of other people's stuff. It might seem weird to you that a person would object to receiving free stuff, but to many of us it feels wrong.

    Self-esteem and self-respect are important to many people. You don't get that by being on the dole. People take pride in supporting themselves, and they take offense at those who leach off of others.

    Oh, and then there are all the issues not directly related to taxes and welfare. Yes, you can be an atheist who thinks that killing unborn children is wrong. Yes, you can be an atheist who thinks that LGBT are as crazy as people who hear fire hydrants talking to them. Yes, you can be an atheist who thinks that considering an illegal alien to be an undocumented member of the community is like considering a rapist to be an undocumented spouse. Yes, you can be an atheist who hates Muslims about a trillion times more than Christians. Yes, you can be an atheist who likes the gun laws of Florida (stand your ground, even away from home) and Texas (deadly force to defend property).

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @09:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @09:23PM (#625314)

      It is downright selfish to vote yourself more of other people's stuff.

      Yes, I also opposed the Republican tax bill. Then need to give back all that they took from other people.

  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Saturday January 20 2018, @11:06PM

    by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Saturday January 20 2018, @11:06PM (#625383) Homepage Journal

    The USA is so enormous, and so numerous are its schools, colleges and religious seminaries, many devoted to special religious beliefs ranging from the unorthodox to the dotty, that we can hardly wonder at its yielding a more bounteous harvest of gobbledygook than the rest of the world put together.

    --Peter Medawar

    I'm not surprised at any of this. But then again, I'm not very sanguine about such things. ;)

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 21 2018, @12:32AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 21 2018, @12:32AM (#625429)

    You aren't a first world country by most civilized standards.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 21 2018, @03:53PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 21 2018, @03:53PM (#625671)

    If America stops being a first world foil, all you've got left is Russia, China, and the EU+Australia as the 'First World', and two out of three of those are definitely fascist and the third is proto-fascist. All three having 'imaginary property' propped up economies (as does the US) whether via actual IP, or via virtualized currency (fiat taken to a new extreme) where the country's worth/debt ceiling is set by how much they can claim on paper they are worth before someone can blow the whistle on how many resources they actually have left.

    Unless the intelligent human resources can be pooled to collapse not only the US, but the China, Russia and finally the EU, nothing will get better in the world. You might even be able to collapse them in a different order, but the danger stems from collapsing the wrong economy and giving the alternatives time to muster their militaries before they run out of domestic finance and the 'peasants' can revolt. If they roll over adjoining nations, the newfound wealth would allow them to continue dominating the rest of the world.