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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday January 23 2018, @04:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the educationally-challenged? dept.

Microsoft challenges Chromebooks with $189 Windows 10 laptops for schools

Microsoft is making a bigger push to keep students and teachers using Windows this week. At the annual Bett education show in London, Microsoft is revealing new Windows 10 and Windows 10 S devices that are priced from just $189. The software giant is also partnering with the BBC, LEGO, NASA, PBS, and Pearson to bring a variety of Mixed Reality and video curricula to schools.

Lenovo has created a $189 100e laptop. It's based on Intel's Celeron Apollo Lake chips, so it's a low-cost netbook essentially, designed for schools. Lenovo is also introducing its 300e, a 2-in-1 laptop with pen support, priced at $279. The new Lenovo devices are joined by two from JP, with a Windows Hello laptop priced at $199 and a pen and touch device at $299. All four laptops will be targeted towards education, designed to convince schools not to switch to Chromebooks.

JP apparently refers to JP Sá Couto.

Also at Windows Blog, Engadget, and ZDNet.

Related: First ARM Snapdragon-Based Windows 10 S Systems Announced


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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 23 2018, @08:42PM (11 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 23 2018, @08:42PM (#626741) Journal

    It's called Powershell, and it's like trying to get yourself off with a cactus dildo.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by insanumingenium on Tuesday January 23 2018, @09:11PM

    by insanumingenium (4824) on Tuesday January 23 2018, @09:11PM (#626758) Journal

    Powershell isn't my first choice for a shell, but it isn't hardly that bad. More like a regular dildo that someone stores in the freezer between uses. It will work if you work it long enough, but it won't be anyones first choice.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Pino P on Wednesday January 24 2018, @02:23AM (6 children)

    by Pino P (4721) on Wednesday January 24 2018, @02:23AM (#626917) Journal

    [The terminal of Windows 10 S is] called Powershell

    You can't actually run anything from the terminal. (Source: "Windows 10 S: no command line apps, free Pro upgrades for assistive tech users" by Peter Bright [arstechnica.com]) And if you're considering using the terminal to connect to your home PC or leased virtual server and do all the work on that, this strategy won't work while riding the bus unless you subscribe to cellular tethering. In many markets, such as the United States (home of SoylentNews), the Windows 10 Pro upgrade is far cheaper than a tethering subscription for the three-year expected service life of one of these laptops.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 24 2018, @02:32AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 24 2018, @02:32AM (#626923)

      Pay who for tethering? It is free here.
      How can they stop me using the net through my phones AP?

      • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Wednesday January 24 2018, @03:09AM (4 children)

        by Pino P (4721) on Wednesday January 24 2018, @03:09AM (#626939) Journal

        Pay who for tethering?

        Your cellular carrier.

        It is free here.

        What carrier in what country? In the United States, home of SoylentNews, it is traditional for carriers to charge extra for tethering.

        How can they stop me using the net through my phones AP?

        First, you could be out of data for the month.

        Second, if the only phone stores in your home town are carrier-branded, you will probably have purchased your phone at such a store, and the carrier will have modified your phone's firmware to ask the carrier "mother may I?" before enabling AP functionality.

        Third, even if you have data left and purchased an unlocked phone through mail order, your ISP can detect that you are accessing predominantly desktop versions of certain websites that have their desktop and mobile versions on separate hostnames (such as en.m.wikipedia.org), the automatic software update mechanisms of Windows, macOS, or popular GNU/Linux distributions, or any of several protocols used by applications not ported to your phone's operating system. In addition, the ISP can guess by correlating packets' TTL values or inspecting the User-agent header in any cleartext HTTP connection that your laptop browser makes. (Source [reddit.com])

        Fourth, even if you have avoided or evaded your cellular ISP's obstacles (data left, an unlocked phone, and no obviously desktop Internet traffic), you may still run into obstacles with your home ISP. The PC to which you are attempting to connect may not be able to accept connections from outside your home LAN because it does not have a public IPv4 address. Instead, it may be behind a carrier-grade network address translation (CGNAT) device operated by your home ISP in order to conserve scarce IPv4 addresses. As far as I'm aware, setting up an incoming connection to a device behind CGNAT requires removing the CGNAT, for which your home ISP is likely to charge a monthly fee.

        • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Wednesday January 24 2018, @04:41AM (3 children)

          by captain normal (2205) on Wednesday January 24 2018, @04:41AM (#626970)

          Look at T-Mobile.

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          • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Wednesday January 24 2018, @04:43AM (2 children)

            by captain normal (2205) on Wednesday January 24 2018, @04:43AM (#626973)
            • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Wednesday January 24 2018, @03:22PM (1 child)

              by Pino P (4721) on Wednesday January 24 2018, @03:22PM (#627163) Journal

              The T-Mobile plan on the page you linked is $70 per month for one line, with discounts for each additional line. I'm currently with T-Mobile on a lower plan that costs less than that per year and would thus fall in what my previous comment calls "you could be out of data for the month." The price difference between what I pay now and what I would pay on the plan described on the page you linked would buy a fairly nice compact laptop on which to run local applications while between one hotspot and the next.

              My current plan: $36 per year for one line
              The plan on the page you linked: $840 per year for one line
              Price difference between the plans: $804 per year for one line
              Price of a ThinkPad 11e with Windows: Starting at $570 (start [lenovo.com])

              • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Wednesday January 24 2018, @08:12PM

                by captain normal (2205) on Wednesday January 24 2018, @08:12PM (#627353)

                That's a really good deal for a phone. I have what I think is a pretty good deal on a phone with a different no-contract carrier. Costs me ~$10 a month and has roll over for talk, text and data. Also have a T-mobile 4G hotspot that I can reload when I need it. Cost $10 for 1GB for one week or 3GB for $30 for one month. Got it for use on the boat and when traveling.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 24 2018, @02:37AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 24 2018, @02:37AM (#626926)

    At my work it is a choice of learn to Get-Help or Get-Fries
    Learning powershell is completely optional. Maccas is always hiring.

  • (Score: 2) by Hyper on Wednesday January 24 2018, @02:40AM (1 child)

    by Hyper (1525) on Wednesday January 24 2018, @02:40AM (#626929) Journal

    It hurts at first, can make you bleed from sensitive places, and breaks *just when you really need it*?
    Sounds about right.

    • (Score: 2) by Hyper on Wednesday January 24 2018, @02:46AM

      by Hyper (1525) on Wednesday January 24 2018, @02:46AM (#626934) Journal

      Sure! Let's have a look at that code..
      Stab-Eye -with finger

      whyyyyyyyy just whyyyy this isn't perl so why did you arrgghh
      Bash-Forehead -on Desk -repeat 8

      if (! (Test-Sanity) ) { TravelTo-Pub -quickly }