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posted by janrinok on Thursday January 25 2018, @11:28PM   Printer-friendly
from the wish-me-luck-as-you-wave-me-bye-bye dept.

A draft budget proposal would end support for the International Space Station (ISS) by 2025. The U.S. was previously committed to operating at the ISS until 2024:

The Trump administration is preparing to end support for the International Space Station program by 2025, according to a draft budget proposal reviewed by The Verge. Without the ISS, American astronauts could be grounded on Earth for years with no destination in space until NASA develops new vehicles for its deep space travel plans.

The draft may change before an official budget request is released on February 12th. However, two people familiar with the matter have confirmed to The Verge that the directive will be in the final proposal. We reached out to NASA for comment, but did not receive a response by the time of publication.

Also at the Wall Street Journal.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 25 2018, @11:58PM (17 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 25 2018, @11:58PM (#627973)

    Let's end support for the Trump Administration in 2018

    If the voters don't clean up the mess they made, we are doomed, DOOMED!

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  • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Friday January 26 2018, @12:07AM

    by Sulla (5173) on Friday January 26 2018, @12:07AM (#627981) Journal

    This is all to help the Russians anyways. Look at it, Trump works with Russians for decades and then boom - he's president and wham - we end US support for the ISS leaving it fully to Russia. This has been in the works forever. That secret payload we sent up? Uranium to arm the ISS. Its too late now, we didn't impeach soon enough, now come 2025 they can rain down atomic hellfire on us and all we can do is sit and take it. Vlad's been planning this since 1999 and we played right into his hands.

    #itwasherturn

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  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday January 26 2018, @12:10AM

    by Gaaark (41) on Friday January 26 2018, @12:10AM (#627983) Journal

    Stupid boy...
    Oh, it's you, Frazer.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @12:14AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @12:14AM (#627988)

    "If the voters don't clean up the mess they made". WTF are you talking about? When Hellary beat (bought DNC) Bernie I switched sides just to keep that thing out of DC.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @12:56AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @12:56AM (#628004)

      Bernie I switched sides just to keep that thing out of DC.

      You filled the WH with smoking shit to keep the plague outside and you succeeded.
      Do you have any reasons now to keep that shit for longer? Perhaps you got to like it since?

      • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Friday January 26 2018, @04:29AM (1 child)

        by Sulla (5173) on Friday January 26 2018, @04:29AM (#628087) Journal

        Because it still seems to be working okay at keeping the elephants and donkeys out. Some of the elephants are getting to where they can ignore the smell but the longer they stay away the better.

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        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @06:18AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @06:18AM (#628121)

          That would be kind of cute except, once you get past the smoke and mirrors, he's following modern (aka batshit) Republican policy to the letter.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Grishnakh on Friday January 26 2018, @12:56AM (2 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday January 26 2018, @12:56AM (#628005)

    Let's end support for the Trump Administration in 2018

    What's that going to do? Maybe you don't realize this, but Trump's first term doesn't end until January 2021, and there's no such thing as a "recall election" for the President, so we're stuck with him, like it or not, unless he does something that actually gets the Republicans in Congress to go along with impeaching him (good luck with that).

    Worse, I predict we're going to have a 2nd term with Trump if he isn't prevented by health issues. Most likely, the DNC will pick yet another unbelievably horrible candidate, perhaps quack-medicine-peddling Oprah, and again enough people will vote for Trump out of disgust for the DNC that he'll win just like this time. The Democrats have shown over and over and over and over that they just can't learn the simple strategy of how to beat the Republicans (hint, you just have to pick a decent, likable candidate who isn't scandal-ridden, and has more charisma than a paper bag; apparently this is just too much for them).

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday January 26 2018, @02:29AM (1 child)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday January 26 2018, @02:29AM (#628039) Homepage

      They are nuts, but they won't go with Oprah. If they do, it will only be surface noise to cover their real choice(s) so that their real choices don't fizzle out too soon. There is the Oprah/Weinstein stuff as well, and all those aides and other insiders who've seen Oprah's bad side are likely to come out of the woodwork at the most inopportune time -- somebody with a past like Oprah's is not likely to be all unicorns shitting rainbows and roses. The Bannon war machine is playing for keeps now, and nothing is hidden anymore*.

      So who would they pick?
      • Kamela Harris (flaming bitch aka Hillary-in-Training) -- nope.
      • "Creepy Uncle Joe" Biden -- nope.
      • Luis "La Migra" Gutiérrez -- that depends on whether or not the DREAMERS, Salvadorians, and other scumbags are allowed to stay and given voting rights. Should that be the case, he'd be at least a VEEP.
      • Bernie Sanders -- nope, but only because the vengeful DNC-infested FBI are going to dirty him with the investigation (something about his wife misappropriating funds for a college, or something) as retribution for indirectly diverting Democrat votes to Trump and third-parties. Otherwise he would stand a chance.
      • Anybody else from California -- nope. Everybody else, including Californians, are sick of California's bullshit.

      * Opinion -- Bannon and Trump's 'falling out,' like their previous spats, are all misdirection. With the 2018 midterms coming up, Trump and Breitbart both had to shed that liability. Bannon is still working behind the scenes to dig up and expose dirt on Trump's enemies.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Grishnakh on Friday January 26 2018, @03:44PM

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday January 26 2018, @03:44PM (#628292)

        There is the Oprah/Weinstein stuff as well, and all those aides and other insiders who've seen Oprah's bad side are likely to come out of the woodwork at the most inopportune time -- somebody with a past like Oprah's is not likely to be all unicorns shitting rainbows and roses.

        Huh? Look at what happened to Hillary: she had bad associates (Kissinger), and insiders came out of the woodwork, yet the Dems still happily nominated her. I'm sorry, your comment seems to assume that the Democrats will actually learn from their mistake, and I just don't have any faith that they will (don't forget here, I'm usually a Dem voter!). They've been pushing lousy Presidential candidates for ages, and that includes 2008: they didn't want Obama at all, and were forced into it when Obama "stole" the nomination from their queen Hillary. They just can't seem to learn that the only way they win elections is when they have a *likable*, charismatic candidate. That's how (Bill) Clinton won, and that's how Obama won. All their other candidates in the past several decades didn't meet this very simple test, and lost. They should have learned in 2008, with Obama's huge success, how important charisma is, and how unpopular Hillary is, but nope, they had to double down with her in '16, and lose an election that they should have had in the bag.

        Really, your reasoning seems to be assuming "they can't *possibly* be so stupid to make the same mistake a 3rd time". With these people, I just don't think that's a reasonable assumption. I really would not be surprised to see them push Hillary yet again.

  • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Friday January 26 2018, @02:49AM (5 children)

    by captain normal (2205) on Friday January 26 2018, @02:49AM (#628048)

    New headline, "US ends support for Trump Administration by 2021".

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @03:31AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @03:31AM (#628069)

      We can use congress to keep him in a box until then. But the odds keepers all still say that reelection rates will hold around 90-95%.

      And right now Trump is the Darling of Davos.

      We live in a sick world.

      Our social security is in real danger.

      • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Friday January 26 2018, @04:33AM (3 children)

        by Sulla (5173) on Friday January 26 2018, @04:33AM (#628090) Journal

        I will just assume you are a boomer and address you as such.

        Your social security is at stake, as a millennial I have never been under the false impression it will still be there for me. When I got hired to work for the state of oregon my boss told me not to count on my pension, social security, or my matched retirement to still be there based on chicago being able to weasel out of their agreements. I invest on my own and stack up assets to sell at a later date, to assume there will be anything left to America after the boomers wring it dry and die off is just insane.

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        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @05:11AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @05:11AM (#628109)

          Don't give me your crybaby bullshit. All contracts were signed and funds were secured. We have every right to expect them to be honored. We are entitled to our earned benefits. Yes, you are a typical millennial that refuses to acknowledge such things. And it's you people wringing the country dry with your weak ass democrats taking our money to bail out the banks and refusing to protect our, and even your own earned pensions. So take your whiny little ass back to your basement or cubicle, whatever, but don't touch what isn't yours.

          • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday January 26 2018, @03:47PM (1 child)

            by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday January 26 2018, @03:47PM (#628295)

            We have every right to expect them to be honored. We are entitled to our earned benefits.

            You being entitled to something because of contracts doesn't mean squat when the government decides to renege.

            Yes, you are a typical millennial that refuses to acknowledge such things.

            You're being stupid. He's not refusing to acknowledge that, he's acknowledging *reality*: regardless of the legal issues, those funds will probably not be there by the time he retires, or maybe even when you do. It's not his doing, it's yours: your generation is the one that succeeds the most at the polls, and chooses most of our leaders.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @07:31PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @07:31PM (#628445)

              Nice blame passing there! How is it my fault if you people don't go out and vote?! And the people you vote for are just the same old democrats and republicans anyway. So you know where you can stuff it! This is what causes all our problems.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @03:37AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @03:37AM (#628071)

    I support the ISS but I don't vote on single issues alone usually and there are so many other things to be concerned with. Someone needs to start a petitition to keep the ISS going.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @06:23AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 26 2018, @06:23AM (#628123)

      Cool, I'll just dust off this one used to petition for Net Neutrality.