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posted by martyb on Saturday January 27 2018, @07:46PM   Printer-friendly
from the That's-the-last-straw! dept.

Existing law requires, except as otherwise provided, a person who violates any provision of the code to be guilty of a misdemeanor with each offense punishable by a fine of not less than $25 or more than $1,000, or by imprisonment in the county jail for a term not exceeding 6 months, or by both.

This bill would prohibit a food facility, as specified, where food may be consumed on the premises from providing single-use plastic straws to consumers unless requested by the consumer. By creating a new crime and imposing additional enforcement duties on local health agencies, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB1884


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @10:16AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @10:16AM (#629389)
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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Sunday January 28 2018, @11:27AM (5 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 28 2018, @11:27AM (#629401) Journal
    I disagree. You have yet to explain how a plastic straw in a California restaurant makes its way into the ocean. Let us keep in mind where the plastic is actually coming from [nypost.com]:

    Around 90 percent of the plastic polluting our oceans comes from just ten rivers, a new study has shown.

    Eight of those rivers are in Asia, with the remaining two — the Nile and the Niger — in Africa.

    ' So in other words, more than 90% of plastic waste in the ocean doesn't come from California or its plastic straws.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:36PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:36PM (#629419)

      What do you think happens to Cali's plastic straws? They evaporate into the aether?

      Most of the developed world packs up and ships out their plastic waste to asia and africa for "recycling". Which generally means getting dumped wherever there's space, because the government departments have been paid off, and so nobody's going to check whether the stuff is actually recycled at all.
      Then it rains on the dumping site, and bits and bobs of plastic get washed along the same routes as all the water goes - into the rivers and down to the sea.

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by khallow on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:41PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:41PM (#629423) Journal

        What do you think happens to Cali's plastic straws? They evaporate into the aether?

        I think they end up in a landfill in California.

        Most of the developed world packs up and ships out their plastic waste to asia and africa for "recycling".

        Ah, the blame the developed world game again. It's still not the developed world dumping this plastic, but the recipients in Asia and Africa.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @11:24AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @11:24AM (#629775)

      Where do you think the Cali plastic comes from? Asia.

      Plastic is manufactured from granules. The production standards in Asia are horrible and the pollution enormous. Then you have the shipping part where containers regularly fall off ships in storms and even entire ships sink spewing all their contents in the oceans.

      You have to take into account the entire life cycle of a product to see its impact.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 29 2018, @03:26PM (1 child)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 29 2018, @03:26PM (#629836) Journal

        Where do you think the Cali plastic comes from? Asia.

        Didn't say otherwise.

        You have to take into account the entire life cycle of a product to see its impact.

        And yet, this doesn't take into account who's putting plastic in the oceans or when.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 30 2018, @10:17PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 30 2018, @10:17PM (#630664)

          California is. All the time.