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Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:
Hackers from the Dutch intelligence service AIVD have provided the FBI with crucial information about Russian interference with the American elections. For years, AIVD had access to the infamous Russian hacker group Cozy Bear. That's what de Volkskrant and Nieuwsuur have uncovered in their investigation.
It's the summer of 2014. A hacker from the Dutch intelligence agency AIVD has penetrated the computer network of a university building next to the Red Square in Moscow, oblivious to the implications. One year later, from the AIVD headquarters in Zoetermeer, he and his colleagues witness Russian hackers launching an attack on the Democratic Party in the United States. The AIVD hackers had not infiltrated just any building; they were in the computer network of the infamous Russian hacker group Cozy Bear. And unbeknownst to the Russians, they could see everything.
That's how the AIVD becomes witness to the Russian hackers harassing and penetrating the leaders of the Democratic Party, transferring thousands of emails and documents. It won't be the last time they alert their American counterparts. And yet, it will be months before the United States realize what this warning means: that with these hacks the Russians have interfered with the American elections. And the AIVD hackers have seen it happening before their very eyes.
The Dutch access provides crucial evidence of the Russian involvement in the hacking of the Democratic Party, according to six American and Dutch sources who are familiar with the material, but wish to remain anonymous. It's also grounds for the FBI to start an investigation into the influence of the Russian interference on the election race between the Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and the Republican candidate Donald Trump.
Translated by: Lisa Negrijn
It's quite an interesting read.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @03:31PM (10 children)
Your rebuttal could be said for doctors.
I guess when it comes to knife against flesh, people take things a bit more serious, and thank goodness that they do.
Also, "It's unconstitutional" is irrelevant; the very discussion is about the nature of the existing system, and how it could be changed.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @04:00PM (9 children)
False equivalence. Testing doctors will not lead to the suppression of certain groups of people, and nor are there any obvious motivations for doing so.
Voting tests have always been used for suppression of groups deemed undesirable. If you're at all skeptical of the government - which you should be - then you already do not want it to have the power to forbid people from voting based on the results of some tests that it itself would create. Sounds like Big Government to me.
I find it even more laughable that the knowledge you suggested people should have before being allowed to vote reveal why voting tests are such a bad idea. You could choose just the right questions so as to suppress people who are unlikely to vote for a particular party.
It's at times like these that I'm glad it's difficult to change the Constitution.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @04:36PM (8 children)
Let's start there. Answer me that.
And, please, no snide "Your type".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @05:34PM (4 children)
Oh, you're the guy who always starts his posts in the subject field. My mistake. Congratulations, I guess.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @06:45PM (3 children)
He's been hoist by his own petard.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @07:29PM (2 children)
Yes, your reputation follows you. You may not have an account but you've shitposted here long enough that I often suspect you're in a thread and then you confirm it with some of your more drastic positions. Like putting half our comment in the subject line. Others have done it, but paired with your general block headed nature it is probably a 97% accurate assessment.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 30 2018, @04:12AM (1 child)
The thing that amazes me about our anarcho-capitalist anon is how he's able to just keep on going, and going, and going, and going, and going....
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 30 2018, @05:39AM
He's able to do that because he doesn't put any actual thought into his posts. I see this with apologists too; they don't need to invest much in their posts because the thinking, and I am using the word very generously here, has already been done for them. They just have to sit there and squeeze, pardon the imagery...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @10:08PM (2 children)
If you are dumb, you shouldn't vote. We ought to have a high standard for this, probably without a sharp cutoff. For example, votes get weighted according to intelligence percentile. Throw a few IQ questions on the ballot.
If your family contains anybody who has ever been here illegally, you shouldn't vote.
If you have no investment in the future of the country, you shouldn't vote. This means you need children or, if over the age of 60, you need grandchildren.
If you believe in the supremacy of a non-constitutional form of law, you shouldn't vote.
If your family doesn't pay more in taxes than you receive in benefits (including government employee salary) then you shouldn't vote.
If you hold any non-USA citizenship, you shouldn't vote.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 30 2018, @01:21AM (1 child)
My Gawd you are dumb if you think being dumb disqualifies you from voting. What are you, white or something?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 30 2018, @04:06AM
wut?