Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

posted by Fnord666 on Monday February 05 2018, @11:39AM   Printer-friendly
from the give-me-network-choices dept.

Ars Technica is reporting on San Francisco's initial steps to create a citywide fiber-to-the-premise (FTTP) open-access network where ISPs compete for customers.

According to Ars Technica:

San Francisco is trying to find network providers to build a city-wide, gigabit fiber Internet service with mandated net neutrality and consumer privacy protections. It would be an open-access network, allowing multiple ISPs to offer service over the same lines and compete for customers.

The city yesterday issued a Request for Qualifications (RFQ) to find companies that are qualified "to design, build, finance, operate, and maintain a ubiquitous broadband FTTP [fiber-to-the-premises] network that permits retail service providers to lease capacity on the network." The project would also involve a free Wi-Fi service for city parks, city buildings, major thoroughfares, and visitor areas. Low-income residents would qualify for subsidies that make home Internet service more affordable.

ISPs offering service over the network would not be allowed to block or throttle lawful Internet traffic or engage in paid prioritization. ISPs would also need customers' opt-in consent "prior to collecting, using, disclosing, or permitting access to customer personal information or information about a customer's use of the network."

Could this be the first major US metropolitan area to create a real free market in broadband Internet? Do any Soylentils have similar municipal networks?


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday February 05 2018, @09:26PM (9 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday February 05 2018, @09:26PM (#633452) Homepage Journal

    When ever single instance of an ideal being put into practice turns out exactly the same corrupt way, it is not unfair to declare that corruption to be part and parcel of the ideology. Yes, the same could be said for capitalism but at least in capitalism it's acknowledged as corrupt and fought back against. In pretty much every form of socialism ever tried, questioning authority is a good way to land yourself in an early grave.

    --
    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    Starting Score:    1  point
    Karma-Bonus Modifier   +1  

    Total Score:   2  
  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05 2018, @09:36PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05 2018, @09:36PM (#633462)

    Educate yourself before you reply mmmkay? Socialism != Communism.

    Can you try saying that 100 times? Also, it is intellectually bankrupt to pretend that a small group of powerful educated people pulling one over on the public is either socialism or communism. Please stop replying, you just highlight the fact that you're brainwashed pretty badly by propaganda.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday February 05 2018, @10:14PM (1 child)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday February 05 2018, @10:14PM (#633484) Homepage Journal

      I most assuredly know the difference and stand by what I said.

      --
      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 06 2018, @12:15AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 06 2018, @12:15AM (#633553)

        I most assuredly know the difference and stand by what I said.

        A position which marks you as an idiot.

  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday February 05 2018, @09:51PM (5 children)

    by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Monday February 05 2018, @09:51PM (#633472) Homepage Journal

    I'll repost the link to the Wikipedia page:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism [wikipedia.org]

    on the off chance you'll decide to educate yourself in the actual fact that "socialism" isn't one thing or one set of practices.

    I am, as you are certainly aware Buzzard, if you've actually read the comments i've written to which you've responded, as well as many others, very much in favor of capitalism, competition and market-based solutions, except where they don't make sense.

    You and I may disagree where they do and don't make sense, but I'm certainly not a Marxist (not even a Groucho-style one -- those guys give me a headache).

    I brought up socialism not as "the" answer, but as an observation that many (including you at times, but certainly not always) use the term as a general pejorative, even when it has no bearing on the discussion -- such as this one.

    And so, I again suggest that you educate yourself a bit as to what "socialism" *actually* is. If you choose not to do so, it's no skin off my nose either way.

    --
    No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday February 05 2018, @10:17PM (2 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday February 05 2018, @10:17PM (#633485) Homepage Journal

      I know precisely what it is. Ownership of the means of productivity by the workers. Which, in practice, is rarely any such thing. Even when it is though, bucking the party line is a good way to become prematurely dead.

      --
      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday February 05 2018, @11:06PM (1 child)

        by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Monday February 05 2018, @11:06PM (#633516) Homepage Journal

        Yep. That's one way that socialist ideas have been implemented, but not the *only* way. There are many others, many of which are meldings of capitalist and socialist ideas.

        Should you wish to get a broader understanding of what's under the umbrella that encompasses "socialism," you're perfectly capable of doing so without my (or anyone else's) help.

        I suggested that you might like to do so, as it would likely give both your rhetorical vocabulary and your understanding of other (including capitalism) ideas more depth and breadth. Just sayin'.

        --
        No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday February 05 2018, @11:18PM (1 child)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday February 05 2018, @11:18PM (#633523) Homepage Journal

      Sorry but I have to double reply here. I can't stand by and let a slight on Groucho go. He was quite possibly the funniest man who ever lived, even if Harpo's "hold my leg" gag always makes me laugh the hardest.

      --
      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday February 05 2018, @11:24PM

        by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Monday February 05 2018, @11:24PM (#633528) Homepage Journal

        Sorry but I have to double reply here. I can't stand by and let a slight on Groucho go. He was quite possibly the funniest man who ever lived, even if Harpo's "hold my leg" gag always makes me laugh the hardest.

        I respect your opinion, Buzzard. My disdain for those guys just means more for you. ;)

        --
        No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr