The Berlin wall was erected on 13 August 1961. It was breached on 9 November 1989, after 28 years, 2 months and 27 days (10315 days, to be exact). Counting forward another 28 years, 2 months and 27 days (or just 10315 days, you get the same answer) takes us to tomorrow, 5 February 2018.
Below is the blog entry I posted on the twentieth anniversary of the Fall of the Wall, in 2009. Since then, I have continued to enjoy visiting Berlin; and I always pay my respects to the Wall and its memories, for me and for many others.
https://nwhyte.livejournal.com/2959427.html
[Editor's Comment: I too had the pleasure of serving in Berlin on 2 separate tours of duty, alongside US and French colleagues. The city was vibrant and full of places to see and things to do. However, I never lost the feeling that we lived in a very restricted environment. I was one of the fortunate ones in that my military duties meant I also had the opportunity to work in what was then East Germany. I'm glad that those days are long gone.]
(Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Monday February 05 2018, @10:57PM (7 children)
Well, yes, that was always true.
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(Score: 3, Funny) by Thexalon on Monday February 05 2018, @11:09PM (6 children)
Actually, it was down for much much much longer than it was up. As in, 4 billion+ years versus less than 30 years.
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(Score: 4, Interesting) by NewNic on Monday February 05 2018, @11:15PM (4 children)
An interesting philosophical point. Before it was up, was it down? It's a reasonable argument to suggest that something that had never existed was not in fact down. You can't ascribe properties ("up", "down") to something that doesn't exist.
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(Score: 3, Touché) by maxwell demon on Monday February 05 2018, @11:31PM (3 children)
But did it still exist after it was torn down? And if so, will it ever cease to exist?
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday February 06 2018, @12:03AM (2 children)
I think it's reasonable to say "No" here. But the previous poster had allowed for "down" to be a property of a wall that had previously existed.
(Score: 4, Informative) by c0lo on Tuesday February 06 2018, @02:28AM (1 child)
Actually, segments of it are still standing [google.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Informative) by Geotti on Tuesday February 06 2018, @01:01PM
Yes, but at the place you linked to not it's not standing at the proper location. There are [berliner-mauer-gedenkstaette.de] other [wikipedia.org] places [tagesspiegel.de] in Berlin, though, where you it's standing in it's historic place..
(Score: 2) by coolgopher on Tuesday February 06 2018, @01:08AM
I doubt you can claim that. Berlin has not existed for billions of years, and it would seem highly illogical for something to be named as the "Berlin" wall before there is even a "Berlin".
We're splitting hairs though. Which I guess it's nicer than splitting atoms.