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posted by janrinok on Monday February 05 2018, @10:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the how-many-of-us-remember-it-now? dept.

The Berlin wall was erected on 13 August 1961. It was breached on 9 November 1989, after 28 years, 2 months and 27 days (10315 days, to be exact). Counting forward another 28 years, 2 months and 27 days (or just 10315 days, you get the same answer) takes us to tomorrow, 5 February 2018.

Below is the blog entry I posted on the twentieth anniversary of the Fall of the Wall, in 2009. Since then, I have continued to enjoy visiting Berlin; and I always pay my respects to the Wall and its memories, for me and for many others.

https://nwhyte.livejournal.com/2959427.html

[Editor's Comment: I too had the pleasure of serving in Berlin on 2 separate tours of duty, alongside US and French colleagues. The city was vibrant and full of places to see and things to do. However, I never lost the feeling that we lived in a very restricted environment. I was one of the fortunate ones in that my military duties meant I also had the opportunity to work in what was then East Germany. I'm glad that those days are long gone.]


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by NewNic on Monday February 05 2018, @11:15PM (4 children)

    by NewNic (6420) on Monday February 05 2018, @11:15PM (#633521) Journal

    An interesting philosophical point. Before it was up, was it down? It's a reasonable argument to suggest that something that had never existed was not in fact down. You can't ascribe properties ("up", "down") to something that doesn't exist.

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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by maxwell demon on Monday February 05 2018, @11:31PM (3 children)

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Monday February 05 2018, @11:31PM (#633533) Journal

    But did it still exist after it was torn down? And if so, will it ever cease to exist?

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday February 06 2018, @12:03AM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 06 2018, @12:03AM (#633547) Journal

      But did it still exist after it was torn down?

      I think it's reasonable to say "No" here. But the previous poster had allowed for "down" to be a property of a wall that had previously existed.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by c0lo on Tuesday February 06 2018, @02:28AM (1 child)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 06 2018, @02:28AM (#633592) Journal

        But did it still exist after it was torn down?

        I think it's reasonable to say "No" here.

        Actually, segments of it are still standing [google.com]

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by Geotti on Tuesday February 06 2018, @01:01PM

          by Geotti (1146) on Tuesday February 06 2018, @01:01PM (#633787) Journal

          Actually, segments of it are still standing

          Yes, but at the place you linked to not it's not standing at the proper location. There are [berliner-mauer-gedenkstaette.de] other [wikipedia.org] places [tagesspiegel.de] in Berlin, though, where you it's standing in it's historic place..