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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday February 06 2018, @02:16PM   Printer-friendly
from the no-tipping-allowed dept.

Submitted via IRC for SoyCow9228

Back in December, we reported on the Trump administration's proposed changes to tip-pooling regulations that would allow employers to pocket servers' tips as long as the employees continue to make minimum wage. That's right: Employers could take servers' tips and just dole out the minimum wage. But wait, it gets worse!

Turns out, the Department Of Labor knew how crappy this would make life for restaurant employees. This Bloomberg Law article, citing sources within the agency, reveals that the Department Of Labor knowingly buried its own data that showed restaurant workers would lose billions of dollars in gratuities under the new proposal.

Source: https://thetakeout.com/proposed-tip-pooling-law-is-so-bad-for-workers-the-gove-1822664111


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by sjames on Tuesday February 06 2018, @04:04PM (4 children)

    by sjames (2882) on Tuesday February 06 2018, @04:04PM (#633894) Journal

    If I give a tip, it is because I believe the waitstaff served me well. It is between me and them. If the owner pockets it, it is theft as far as I'm concerned.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Tuesday February 06 2018, @04:32PM (1 child)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 06 2018, @04:32PM (#633926) Journal

    (yeah, naaah, mate! I do agree with your point, but I deliberately put it this way to emphasize the cognitive dissonance in TMB's argumentation. I know well his battle cry of "Socialism is theft" and yet in this instance he shows quite a decent understanding of waiter's positions, to the point of sacrificing the interest of him as a customer)

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 06 2018, @05:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 06 2018, @05:23PM (#633956)

      Because wait staff are so ubiquitous that even he understands the situation. I'm waiting for his mental gymnastics routine where he defines everything in such a way that he doesn't need to budge his world view. Ironically such feats of delusion are what he accuses of anyone who went to college.

      Damn ivory towers with no bearing on the real world!!! /s

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 07 2018, @04:16AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 07 2018, @04:16AM (#634286)

    If I give a tip, it is because I believe the waitstaff served me well. It is between me and them. If the owner pockets it, it is theft as far as I'm concerned.

    Which is why I am now in the habit of leaving my tips in cash. If the waitstaff want to share their tip with the owner, that is entirely up to them. If, on the other hand, they would rather not, I'm completely OK with that. Considering that Uncle Sam has put them in this rather awkward position, I'm OK with them not letting the government know about it either. That is between them and their conscience.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 07 2018, @06:23AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 07 2018, @06:23AM (#634318)

      The wait staff are not my employees. Tips are not "earned" in that sense of the word.

      Tips are reciprocal gifts for exceeding minimal performance. Might as well tax Christmas gifts too.

      A wait staff cheated of their tips will likely not present their employer in a very good light.

      I am quite sure the wait staff view confiscation of tips about like a businessman sees employees walking out with silverware and dishes to sell at the swap meet.

      I am not part of a wait staff, but it even pisses ME off to see wait staff taxed on TIPS.