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Small town Republican thoughts on refuting the alt-right. In The Republican Journal:
I want to make one thing very clear: The Waldo County Republican Committee absolutely, unequivocally condemns Nazi and KKK ideologies and actions, as well as any other kind of bigotry, and we encourage all of our voters and the community at large to do the same.
For fellow Republicans out there, worry not, we don't like Antifa's ideology and actions either, but we need to clean our own house; we need to worry about our own responsibilities.
Such honesty, and clarity of thought!
The most dangerous part of politics today is identity politics, trolling, pathos and a severe lack of critical thinking. You cannot defeat the insidious hatred of bigoted politics with more hate. By doing so, you morph the conversation away from policy and ideology to silly label syntax, eventually devolving completely into back and forth verbal gymnastics. Make no mistake, these trolls are ready for you as you stoop to their level, and they beat you up with mountains of experience.
So what do we do? Very simple. Stay neighborly by controlling your reaction. Seek out those with whom you disagree, try to understand them first, and politely offer your counter argument.
And it looks like the Republicans in Maine, if not in Illinois, are rejecting the alt-right.
The way to defeat Mr. Kawczynski is not by attacking him, but by attacking his ideas. Here are some flaws in his thinking: His immigration ideas are antithetical to the Maine Republican party platform, a section of which states, "We support the assimilation of legal immigrants into Maine society."
Kawczynski's ideas stand in contrast to Maine history and culture; in fact, it is white folks with racist ideologies who pose the greatest threat to Maine's foundation, not other races of people.
Another brilliant tidbit:
Ultimately, all you have to do is walk outside with your eyes open in this state to see that Kawczynski's fearmongering about "white genocide" is completely laughable.
Entire guest column is well worth a read.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 09 2018, @04:31PM (45 children)
I honestly was hopeful when I read the summary. I thought there would be some decent comments here and a general agreement with the Maine Republicans. Obviously I was mistaken, you alt-righters crowing in this thread are ideological cannibals.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Sulla on Friday February 09 2018, @05:01PM (44 children)
I don't know anybody that is to the right and doesn't agree with tfa. The problem is no matter how much you say that or say you dislike the kkk and their ilk the left will never believe you. While Arist makes a article sub about this in a post on death monkey's journal he equates pro-business people and neo-nazis.
You are a Nazi!
No I reject them
You support the kkk!
No I reject them
But you are still a white nationalist!
No I reject them
But you voted trump!
No I did not
Got you there you support business
Yeah a do
Nazi!
And if I start rejecting business im sure I will be branded a nazi for not supporting a 40% incme tax, and after that because I drive a truck, and after that because I had kids, and after that because I dont openly identify as a marxist.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Friday February 09 2018, @05:57PM (12 children)
I don't know anybody that is to the right and doesn't agree with tfa.
This Nazi running on the Republican ticket for Congress disagrees. [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 4, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Friday February 09 2018, @05:59PM (1 child)
Hint: If you'r the leader of the American Nazi Party it's not us liberals labeling you as a Nazi.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 10 2018, @05:24AM
This URL is the tiniest bit better.
https://soylentnews.org/~DeathMonkey/journal/#journalgeneric [soylentnews.org]
...but, as soon as you make another journal entry, that will degrade, pushing the item you want folks to see further down on the stack.
Here's the form of the URL you'll want to use next time:
https://soylentnews.org/~DeathMonkey/journal/2974#journalgeneric [soylentnews.org]
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Friday February 09 2018, @06:24PM (9 children)
How I meant it was "dont know anybody irl" but wasn't sure of a way to say that where the sentence structure didn't feel weird. I dont know anybody in/from illinois irl.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday February 09 2018, @06:32PM (8 children)
You specifically mentioned my journal....
You are such a slave to your team you are willing to support an actual Nazi. Not a pro-business guy, or a Republican, an actual [snopes.com] Nazi. [adl.org]
Artistarcus' point is that you don't need to...
(Score: 2, Informative) by Sulla on Friday February 09 2018, @06:55PM (7 children)
Is what I said. I am not going to say I will vote for some random Democrat just because he is not the literal Nazi who is running for the same seat. At the same point I would not vote for the self proclaimed Nazi. I have in the past and will probably in the future vote for my local Dem candidate for the congress, Defazio has been pretty okay and most of the people running against him suck. But I would rather vote for none of the above then use my vote for the lesser evil.
Is what Arist said. He is equating people who are pro-business and people who are white supremacists. He said this when this article we are posting in response to right now was probably in the que. Regardless of how often or how hard a conservative might refuse Nazis, you will continue to find something to demonize them with until they believe everything the same as you. People like you are backing the right into a corner where their basic beliefs in individualism, entrepreneurism, religion (for some), and way of life (hunting/fishing) makes them the same thing as Hitler, what possible response do you think they will make when you do that?
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday February 09 2018, @07:20PM
Regardless of how often or how hard a conservative might refuse Nazis,
Try refusing the Nazi first then see how I react.
'Cause all you've done so far is defend him with obvious false-equivalency.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday February 09 2018, @08:11PM (5 children)
Stop covertly supporting Nazis? Refudiate both the alt-right and Sarah Palin? That is what I expect. If Waldo County Republicans can do it, so can you, Sulla!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 09 2018, @09:34PM (4 children)
What do you have against Sarah Palin? Are you sexist? I'm with her.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday February 09 2018, @10:14PM (2 children)
I used the Palinism, "refudiate". So I kind of had to throw her into the ring. A substitution for Ronald Reagan.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Saturday February 10 2018, @12:49AM (1 child)
So just to be clear, are you accusing Ronald Reagan of being a Nazi/white-supremist?
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday February 10 2018, @06:33AM
Yes, to be clear. Reagan was for gun-control, in the face of the Black Panther's assertion of their right to open carry and self-defense. Pretty fricking white of him. And more than that, Reagan was the beginning of the downfall of the Republican party, the Prop 13, Grover Nyquist, anti-welfare, but deficit spending for the military is fine, kind of Republicanism, which seems to be triumphing (or just Trumping!) today. This is why, Sulla, you ignorant slut, if you are pro-business, you are a Nazi. How much clearer do I have to make it for you? You are an Oregonian, for God's sake!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 10 2018, @12:20AM
It's not about sexism, it's about being anti-moron. Perhaps that's discriminatory too, but I prefer those in the political sphere to at least have half a brain.
Just sayin'....
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday February 10 2018, @12:33AM (30 children)
That is why you never explain. You never apologize. You can't reason with an SJW, so there is no reason to interact with them at all. If you EVER apologize for so much as stepping on an SJW's toe, he/she will take that apology as an admission of guilt, and come at you even stronger. If you explain anything, they twist your words, and throw them back at you.
Never explain. Never apologized. Never make excuses. Never even acknowledge them as human. And, most certainly, never fuck one. She'll keep the kid, and brainwash the kid to hate you.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday February 10 2018, @06:40AM (29 children)
Sounds like you're speaking from some experience with an ex, Runaway...?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday February 10 2018, @11:09AM (28 children)
I did mention the woman who wanted me to impregnate her, but wanted me to sign a no-nuptial agreement. I did mention that I told her "No". I didn't have to experience the whole heart breaking thing to realize only a fool would agree to it. You seem to have a short memory . . .
(Score: 1, Redundant) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday February 10 2018, @06:16PM (27 children)
LOL, no, I don't recall you ever mentioning this one. Thanks for doing it now, though. Holy hell, this explains a lot about why you feel the way you do about women. Have you Gone Your Own Way (TM) yet?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Saturday February 10 2018, @09:10PM (26 children)
Everything "explains a lot" with you, 'Zumi. Everything. Each new tidbit of information "explains a lot". It's kinda like, for you, it's a new world, each and every day!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday February 10 2018, @10:38PM (25 children)
Maybe I should say validates or corroborates a lot, then :) I really ought to give my intuition more credit than I do.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday February 10 2018, @11:20PM (24 children)
No, you ought to just listen, and stop passing judgement. You seldom know WTF you're talking about when you make some arcane pronouncement in regards to Runaway. Even when you have some idea what you're talking about, you still miss the mark with your stupid SJW presumptions.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday February 11 2018, @03:35AM (23 children)
And you're referring to yourself in the third person now, just like our wonderful stable genius president. Holy spicy sheepshit with extra onions, boy, you are *losing it.* If you hadn't already lost it ages ago anyway. Deny, deflect, project; I've seen this dance before.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 11 2018, @08:30AM (22 children)
Dance? Again? You're going to continue with pointless trollbait insults, and I'll respond with more pointless bullshit, until the conversation devolves into shit soup which NO ONE, not even us, can make sense of? Wasn't that extremely satisfying the last time around? Except, you want sheepdip flavored with onions, this time? We can arrange for that to happen.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday February 11 2018, @03:44PM (21 children)
Thanks for admitting early on that all you contribute is shit this time, at least...we're done here. Every time you fuck up, admit something you didn't mean to, and get called on it, you pull this Republican bullshit again. How much contempt do you have for the site's userbase if you think we all can't tell this?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 11 2018, @04:21PM (20 children)
You DEMOCRAT!! FFS, talk about contempt, WTF are you referring to as a republican? You act like retarded shit doesn't happen on the other side, you act like all I can be is D or R - you've just GOT TO continue trying to stuff an octagonal peg into the fucking triangular hole. Then you talk about contempt? You've claimed to be the 92nd percentile, then you babble like a retarded redneck? CONTEMPT?!?!?! Stop acting like the base user, and maybe you'll earn some respect.
You need to get our of the house, and do something useless. Try finding this dog - http://fatpita.net/?i=1727 [fatpita.net]
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday February 11 2018, @04:47PM (19 children)
Holy shit, looks like I triggered something, Jesus. I'm an Independent, not a Democrat.
Thanks, again, for doing my work for me. I can always count on you to go completely apeshit over something utterly unexpected and expose to the entire site what a volatile, explosive mass of complexes and paranoia you are.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 11 2018, @05:44PM (18 children)
Nope, you don't get away with that. My voter registration clearly states that I'm independent. If you can call me a republican, then you are a demoncrat. Don't act surprised that I'm an independent - I've often expressed my contempt for both parties. I have alluded to the fact that the R's disgust me a little less than the D's - but I have never expressed anything but contempt for the two parties, or for the two party system. You take your own "independent" nonsense, and mix it with your douchewater or something. You can't respect other people's positions, you'll get no respect for your own.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 11 2018, @08:26PM
A stupid, ignorant, redneck hillbilly Independant, with strong Republican tendencies and lots of contempt. You have earned ours, Runaway! You are now officially contemptable! Kind of a step up from just "Deplorable". Congratulations!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday February 11 2018, @10:42PM (16 children)
Your positions mostly do not deserve respect, and those that do are basic common sense any civilized human being ought to have. You freaked the fuck out up there, too; you're right on the verge of exploding. Get help before you go postal and murder someone.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 11 2018, @11:04PM (15 children)
And, who are you to decide that one position or another is worthy of respect? Check your privilege, girl. You don't get special consideration because you are female, or gay, or liberal, or Catholic, or abused, or 92nd percentile, or whatever the fuck else you base your privilege on. At the end of the day, you're just another dumb twit with an opinion. And, opinions are like assholes - everybody has one, and they all stink.
Among the things that you must do to earn any respect, is to stop trying to act superior - because, you are not.
If you need to read body language to get the full impact of a person's statements, you may assume that my middle finger is pointed into the air, at you, at this moment.
I am running out of places to hide bodies. I really don't want to dig up the Indian graveyard to dump you. Maybe I'll just hire someone. Thanks for the advice.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday February 13 2018, @04:41AM (14 children)
Why in the unpronounceable name of Cthulhu's unholy eldritch betentacled asshole would I want your respect? If you started approving of me, I'd be seriously worried, given how completely warped you are. No, I'll take your disapproval and be happy about it; it means I'm doing something right.
Put down the coffee, take a deep breath, and quit flipping your monitor off. You're full-on autism-screeching triggered and it's completely inappropriate to the situation.
So are the implied death threats, by the way, and these may also constitute a crime. Though as long as you're making them, I double...no, triple-dog dare you, with not one, not two, not three, but a whopping *seven* cherries on top. That's right, seven. Count 'em: ichi, ni, san, yon, go, roku, nana. Seven. Put your money where your frothing, trembling mouth is, Runaway.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 13 2018, @03:20PM (11 children)
I'm googling for a subcontractor as I type . . .
Be sure to call the FBI, and alert them to my "death threats". Imagine your embarrassment when they tell you, "Trolling lesbians online is not a crime!" Not that I really think of you as a lesbian - I actually think of you as just a dumbass broad. Is "dumbass broad" raciss?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday February 13 2018, @09:56PM (10 children)
Shhhh, let him do it. A wise man, I forgot who, one said never to interrupt your opponent while he's busy destroying himself.
I predicted within fewer than half a dozen of his posts, all the way back when, that he had this type of personality and would do far more harm to himself than anything anyone else would or could do to him. He manages to surprise me now and then with just *how* unstable and self-destructive he is, but so far everything's going according to predictions, just faster than I thought.
The dumb son of a bitch could easily stop this whole humiliation conga by just shutting the hell up, but another part of his personality is that he's incapable of it. Not for the same reasons, say, Trump is--he's not a narcissist as far as I can tell--but because he's inflamed and swollen and in pain, mentally speaking. I'm giving him the key right here, and I'm sure he'll read it, and he'll STILL KEEP POSTING, because that is how a Runaway do.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 13 2018, @11:04PM (9 children)
Now you're talking to yourself?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 14 2018, @03:38AM (8 children)
You just...keep...replying. You could make the pain stop by shutting your flapping foodsucker for once in your life, but no. You need to have the last word so, so, so badly.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday February 14 2018, @02:50PM (7 children)
Again - I'm enjoying your pain. We have this wonderful sado-masochistic relationship, you and I.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 14 2018, @08:43PM (6 children)
What pain? I'm sitting here laughing my newly-size-12 ass off at you. I know it's wrong, it's "not nice," but as of last year I decided, to Hell with it, some people deserve to suffer when they make their own problems.
Imagine what kind of havoc you'd suffer if I were actually deliberately trolling you!
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday February 15 2018, @02:07AM (5 children)
"my newly-size-12 ass"
What does that have to do with ANYTHING?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday February 15 2018, @03:08AM (4 children)
About as much as specifically being gay has to do with the illegality of those death threats you made :)
Come on, you triggered cuck, threaten to kill me or have someone kill me again, and *follow through this time.* You talk a lot of shit, now put your money where your fat mouth is. Unless you're just another washout from the Chairborne 101st Division of course.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday February 15 2018, @03:28AM (3 children)
ROFLMAO - no one made any death threats. You SUGGESTED that I get "professional help". And, I told you that it might be a good idea. You're so screwed - did you call the FBI yet? Better get on that!!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday February 15 2018, @03:53AM (2 children)
"I am running out of places to hide bodies. I really don't want to dig up the Indian graveyard to dump you. Maybe I'll just hire someone. Thanks for the advice."
This, and the following post where you mentioned finding a subcontractor, are implied threats. Put your money where your mouth is and follow through. You have already been issued the triple-dare-with-lotsa-fruit-on-top, and as I'm sure you remember from fourth grade, no one may refuse the same and retain his or her honor :D
Or could it be you're just a fat blustering windbag who talks big behind a keyboard because there's no real-world consequences for your yapping? Nawwww, couldn't be...not Runaway...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday February 15 2018, @03:55PM (1 child)
This is why you can't keep up. Anal retentive nonsense keeps you here, whining about my sense of humor, when you should be elsewhere, castigating me for abusing the Japanese, the Indian, and now the German cultures. Anal retentive - hmmmmmm - I wonder if that's the proper term for people who keep their heads up their asses?
In the words of a famous action figure in a famous movie and series, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHQGqxOyMFk [youtube.com]
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday February 15 2018, @08:08PM
You just can't get out of your own way, can you? You always have to have the last word, even if it means you step on a landmine and go full autism-screecher. Don't you understand that the more you post the worse you make yourself look?
Ah, well, it's cheap laughs.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 13 2018, @03:23PM (1 child)
Oh, wait, I almost missed that. Nana's cherry? Did I do that? I'm not admitting to anything, but can you describe your Nana? I don't mean what she looks like today, she's probably an old broad now. What did she look like when I supposedly got her cherry?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday February 13 2018, @09:58PM
You forgot your anti-dementia meds again, didn't you? :) Omae wa, mou shindeiru...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...