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posted by mrpg on Friday February 09 2018, @06:39PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-about-ftp dept.

Google Chrome will begin to mark all HTTP sites as "not secure" starting in July 2018. This is just a warning displayed in the URL bar and won't stop users from loading the pages:

For the past several years, we've moved toward a more secure web by strongly advocating that sites adopt HTTPS encryption. And within the last year, we've also helped users understand that HTTP sites are not secure by gradually marking a larger subset of HTTP pages as "not secure". Beginning in July 2018 with the release of Chrome 68, Chrome will mark all HTTP sites as "not secure".

Also at TechCrunch and The Verge.


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by frojack on Friday February 09 2018, @08:34PM (6 children)

    by frojack (1554) on Friday February 09 2018, @08:34PM (#635698) Journal

    The other thing this does is ENCOURAGES people to ignore this warning.

    If a site collects no personal data (no forms to fill in), is non-commercial, and is simply someone's presentation of an area of interest, (fly fishing, botany, skiing, photography, what-ever), there really isn't one single reason to encrypt that page.

    Its like the EU mandated warnings about cookies. What good does that pop-up do, other than teach people to click through it automatically? Mindless warnings about info only pages could backfire the same way.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 09 2018, @09:29PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 09 2018, @09:29PM (#635726)

    It prevents man-in-the-middle manipulation of the contents.

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Friday February 09 2018, @09:35PM

      by frojack (1554) on Friday February 09 2018, @09:35PM (#635730) Journal

      Who gives a rip? Whats the worst that can happen, I tie a blue-drifter fly wrong? An ad slips in?

      Besides, I have way less confidence in TLS that you do.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Saturday February 10 2018, @01:04AM (2 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 10 2018, @01:04AM (#635816) Journal

    If a site collects no personal data (no forms to fill in), is non-commercial, and is simply someone's presentation of an area of interest, (fly fishing, botany, skiing, photography, what-ever), there really isn't one single reason to encrypt that page.

    But there is a reason: generate encrypted traffic so that any other needed encrypted communication is indistinguishable.

    (go read Little brother [craphound.com])

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    • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Saturday February 10 2018, @01:12AM (1 child)

      by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 10 2018, @01:12AM (#635823) Journal

      But there is a reason: generate encrypted traffic so that any other needed encrypted communication is indistinguishable.

      Okay. There isn't a single intrinsic reason, then.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday February 10 2018, @01:39AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 10 2018, @01:39AM (#635832) Journal

        But there is a reason: generate encrypted traffic so that any other needed encrypted communication is indistinguishable.

        Okay. There isn't a single intrinsic reason, then.

        True.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by TheRaven on Saturday February 10 2018, @12:51PM

    by TheRaven (270) on Saturday February 10 2018, @12:51PM (#635983) Journal

    How quickly people forget the Committee of Unamerica Activities. Fly-fishing, botany, skiing and photography all sound innocuous, but now imagine 20 years of shifting public perceptions. Fly fishing? Oh, so you're interested in torturing animals? Botany? So you grow drugs at home? Skiing? So you're complicit in damage to mountain regions? Photography? Are you a spy or a pervert?

    Of course, most of this won't be filtered by a human, it will go into a big machine learning system, so no one will say 'we're not hiring you because you went to a fly-fishing web site', they'll say 'you were deemed to high risk by our totally objective machine learning system' and not mention that the training set was curated by a militant vegan.

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