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posted by takyon on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:05PM   Printer-friendly
from the blame-Snowden dept.

There has been a "security incident" at the entrance to the NSA's headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland:

Several people have been injured and a suspect was taken into custody after a car crashed outside the US National Security Agency's headquarters.

Gunfire rang out after the black SUV approached the facility in Fort Meade, Maryland, without authorisation.

An NSA spokesman said it was unclear if the shots had been fired by law enforcement officers or the suspect, adding that the scene was now secure.

Also at Reuters, CBS, The Hill, and Vice.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:07PM (12 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:07PM (#637713) Journal

    How could NSA not know in advance that this would happen? Isn't that the whole purpose of them vacuuming up every possible scrap of information about US citizens?

    Even without the PATRIOT act, the US government had all the information about 9/11 days before it happened. They just couldn't put it together. So how does it help to drown the intelligence agencies in even more data?

    They want "responsible encryption" (which is truly irresponsible), so they can access anything, anywhere, anytime, without oversight. Yet they can't even make use of the vast amount of data they already are allowed to collect.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:20PM (1 child)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:20PM (#637722) Journal

    People still drive older vehicles that haven't been utterly pwned.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:12PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:12PM (#637883)

      Invisible older vehicles? Driven by people who don't use the internet or telephone?

  • (Score: 2, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:22PM (3 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:22PM (#637795) Homepage Journal

    When you talk about George Bush, I mean, say what you want, the World Trade Center came down during his time. He was President, OK? Blame him, or don't blame him, but he was President. The World Trade Center came down during his reign. Personally, I blame him. I think he wanted it to happen. To give him an excuse to go into Iraq. We spent $7 TRILLION in the Middle East. For what? So Dick Cheney and Halliburton could become very, very rich. His administration was such a DISASTER, it gave us Barack Obama. Many people say George Bush knew the 7-11 attacks were going to happen. And he did nothing to stop them. His guys came to tell him it started. And he did nothing. He was at a school, he sat there and told the children a story about a goat. Not many people remember, if you don't remember look on the Internet. There are "tapes" of it!!

    Believe me, I'm no George Bush. I'm putting America First. I've asked my Defense Department to build a Time Weapon. So when something bad happens, we go back in time. It's like we go back in time. And we change what happened. It's not perfected yet. Which is why we have Doug Jones in the Senate.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:44PM (1 child)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:44PM (#637893) Journal

      Just be sure your time weapon is powered by clean coal. Beautiful clean coal.

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      • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:59PM

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:59PM (#637905) Homepage Journal

        That was one of the terrible things about Obama, he promised he would support our coal industry. Support clean coal. So many people voted for him because they hoped he would save our coal industry. Hope and change, right? But when he got into office, he was very strict with our coal power plants, a lot of them closed down because he made it VERY EXPENSIVE for them to stay in business. And he stopped giving out the leases, he put a moratorium on the leases for coal mining. Which I lifted, our mining is coming back, big league!

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @11:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @11:10PM (#637936)

      Damn Osama blew up the 7-11, now where am I supposed to get shitty pizza at 3AM?

  • (Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:31PM

    by pkrasimirov (3358) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:31PM (#637806)

    > Yet they can't even make use of the vast amount of data they already are allowed to collect.
    My hypothesis is they pump up some secret AI with this data to do it for them. The more data they have the stronger the AI will be (is?). And that's why they so confidently say "no person sees your data". They want something like real-world god-cheat for pwning anyone at will. Little do they know about game theory and why such tool is not solving their perceived problem(s). But the downsides of such tool/net/AI remain in full force.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:01PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:01PM (#637874)

    Just watch all modern TV shows that involve police, you always see them instantly getting access to personal devices and private data. Our entertainment media will steadily normalize this concept so that the population just assumes such tech is necessary and good. At least torture isn't getting as much positive treatment anymore, but enough to still make me sad.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by DannyB on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:48PM (1 child)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:48PM (#637896) Journal

      Years ago, I watched a cable TV program where they always instantly could get all kinds of personal info, bank records, medical records, etc; all instantly!

      And I thought they were the good guys. As the TV series makes them out to be.

      But then in 2013 after Snowden, I suddenly soured on this show, and realized that they are the bad guys not the good guys. There was even an episode when one character abused this kind of power for some personal reason, but it all turned out okay, of course. I tended to give it a pass. But not after Snowden. My reaction after Snowden is that we should not be building the aparatus of a police state -- not because we might or might not trust those currently in power -- but because someday an absolute mad man might be in power. And only a few short years later, here we are!

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @02:59AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @02:59AM (#638043)

        The shit those shows pull is scary authoritarian, and the worst examples they play off as "partner was disturbed by the overreaction / line crossing but continues on because they know they are the good guys."

        The kicker in reality for me was Obama making a joke about droning his daughter's boyfriend. Nobel peace prize for that piece of shit? Wish I hadn't voted for him.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @01:56AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @01:56AM (#638014)

    How could NSA not know in advance that this would happen?

    Because the car's GPS was encrypted. Another example of the dangers of encryption.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @05:14AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @05:14AM (#638087)

    How could NSA not know in advance that this would happen? Isn't that the whole purpose of them vacuuming up every possible scrap of information about US citizens?

    As (our S/N own) realDonaldTrump uses to say: cyber is hard.