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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday February 17 2018, @03:34AM   Printer-friendly
from the what-would-rivest-do? dept.

£10,000 proposed for everyone under 55

The government should give £10,000 to every citizen under 55, a report suggests.

The Royal Society for the encouragement of the Arts, Manufactures and Commerce (RSA) said it could pave the way to everyone getting a basic state wage.

The idea sees two payments of £5,000 paid over two years, but certain state benefits and tax reliefs would be removed at the same time.

The RSA said it would compensate workers for the way jobs are changing.

The money would help to steer UK citizens through the 2020s, "as automation replaces many jobs, climate change hits and more people face balancing employment with social care", the report said.

Royal Society of Arts.

Also at The Guardian and CNBC.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 18 2018, @12:58PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 18 2018, @12:58PM (#639684)

    Completely missing the point, as usual. I guess this is where you declare the debate "won".

    We were *not* in abject poverty. We were poor, sure, but never in danger of starving. We had health insurance. When we couldn't pay essential bills, we could go to the town hall and ask them to cover that. Free education -- me and my siblings all finished a good high-school. Even the bus passes were free.

    I'm refuting your point that being on welfare is "comfortable living", you idiot. It's NOT. You're imagining some lavish lifestyle, having fun all day, waiting for the checks to arrive and spending them on luxury items. Sure, there's an occasional exception that manages to cheat the system to live like that, but that's what it is -- an *exception*. Most people on welfare either work hard and just need a little help, or are unable to work at all due to disabilities or something.

    But living on welfare is not terrible either, in a socialist country. I'm extremely grateful I wasn't born in the US -- if I was, I'd likely be digging through trash looking for food scraps instead of doing my PhD.

    I still fail to understand how you reconcile "abject poverty for all" with "live comfortably on money you've done fuck-all to earn", but I'm sure that's one of those logical arguments you brag about using to win every single debate you're in.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday February 18 2018, @01:27PM

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday February 18 2018, @01:27PM (#639687) Homepage Journal

    See, this is where the place you're speaking of is important. In the US, our benefits are structured in such a way as to make it far more financially viable to exist on government handouts (if you're eligible) than to work unless you make significantly more than average [learnliberty.org]. It's been that way for long enough that I can only assume that it is a deliberate attempt to keep people dependent on government handouts and thus voting for whoever promises them the most.

    In Europe, you're significantly farther down the communist rabbit hole and feeling the effects that communism always brings to any nation it touches. If you want to know your future, have a look at Greece.

    Next time do please try to understand that different situations are going to have different circumstances and thus results. You'll sound less foolish.

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