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New studies zero in on roots of depression and why ketamine reverses it
[There's] been significant progress in unravelling the confusion over ketamine, with researchers identifying a ketamine derivative that tackles depression with far fewer side effects. And this week, a team of researchers at China's Zhejiang University announced that they've figured out where in the brain ketamine acts when it blocks depression, a finding that gives us significant insights into the biology of the disorder.
The new studies rely on the work of a number of other labs, which have identified a specific structure deep in the brain that's associated with depression. Called the lateral habenula, it's been associated with a variety of activities, the most relevant of which seems to be the processing of unpleasant outcomes and punishment. Electrodes implanted there have been used to relieve depression in at least one instance.
To test whether this might be the site of ketamine's activity, one team of researchers infused the drug directly into the lateral habenula of rats with depression-like symptoms; it blocked them. So did a separate chemical that inhibits the same proteins that ketamine acts on. Tracking the activity in the area, the researchers were able to show that there are bursts of activity in rats with symptoms of depression that are absent in healthy rats. The drugs that blocked depression suppressed these bursts.
Ketamine blocks bursting in the lateral habenula to rapidly relieve depression (DOI: 10.1038/nature25509) (DX)
Astroglial Kir4.1 in the lateral habenula drives neuronal bursts in depression (DOI: 10.1038/nature25752) (DX)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 18 2018, @10:35PM (3 children)
I am not touching that shit. Again self medicating is just shooting in the dark. I do not like psychedelic effects. It makes me extremely sick. Sure I may not feel depressed but I feel like total hell. I am not looking to feel geeked out or floaty. I just do not want to be depressed.
I am also not going to 'give ketamine a try'. That sort of thinking is little more than drink a can of 7up and take an aspirin to feel better when you have the flu. It may sooth the side effects a bit but does not fix the root cause.
Dealing with the 'drug scene' is like dealing with extremely inexperienced programmers. They 'try' things with little regard for the science and rigor of doing it correctly. "just try X" well thats nice but it did jack diddly to fix the issue at hand. What is worse there are many out there who have master level experience but never graduated to actually doing things correctly. Just because you have done something for 10k hours does not make you an expert. It just gives you the opportunity to do so.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday February 18 2018, @11:58PM
Where is your version of this "drug scene" of which you speak?
My version was seeing junkies literally begging to suck dick for heroin, or to try and sucker me into cold-calling their dealers at 3 a.m. and score drugs for them because even their dealers would no longer sell to them. Or how about the tweekers who rent and illegally sublet a Mexicali-slum studio apartment with nothing but a shit-stained mattress in it fire up the glass dick and take turns sitting on their asses on the floor and pacing around like some kind of urban powow gone bad. Or the single mother of two OD'ing and dying after a round of booze and pain medication. Or the other numerous cases of Hep-C and jail time, driving their own girlfriends up to Johns' houses and pimping them out multiple times a night before kissing the mouth that just sucked 5-10 dicks.
Booze is a destructive drug but there is more dignity in being the village drunkard than there is the last paragraph above.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @12:04AM (1 child)
You keep on saying it but it's not true. Nobody should take your pessimism about this to heart.
You can self-medicate safely with shrooms. You can take small amounts and adjust the dose up each time. Doses under about a gram will have few or no psychedelic effects. Microdosers take as little as 0.25 grams.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @02:03AM
IME, it takes about 2-3 grams to get any visual effect, and those usually light until I get into 1/8 oz or above. Shrooms are non-addictive, very safe, and extremely useful both recreationally and for dealing with depression. Pure MDMA has a similar efficacy, but it also has side effects and isn't quite as safe.