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posted by Fnord666 on Monday February 19 2018, @05:43PM   Printer-friendly
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A federal grand jury in Washington, DC has indicted 13 Russian nationals and a Kremlin-linked internet firm on charges that they had meddled in the 2016 presidential election.

The US government said Russian entities began interfering in US political processes, including the 2016 presidential election, as early as 2014, according to a court document.

[...] The charges – which include conspiracy, wire fraud, bank fraud and aggravated identity theft – are the most direct allegations to date of illegal Russian meddling in the election.

Video - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/us-election-2016-russia-robert-mueller-investigation-fbi-latest-updates-a8214651.html

Link to the Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download


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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:12PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:12PM (#640203)

    Keeping foreigners from meddling in our elections is important. I assume you support strong ID requirements for voters... or are you a hypocrite?

    But anyway, there was a president who did not properly vet and track these people coming from foreign countries. Nope, not Trump.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Monday February 19 2018, @07:15PM

    by Gaaark (41) on Monday February 19 2018, @07:15PM (#640205) Journal

    Keeping Americans from meddling in foreign elections is important TOO! or it's tit-for-tat and stop crying!

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bob_super on Monday February 19 2018, @07:31PM (6 children)

    by bob_super (1357) on Monday February 19 2018, @07:31PM (#640212)

    This is not about Russians casting illegal ballots. Don't move the goalposts.

    Some people have to stop shouting "fake news" and "witch hunt", when the people involved keep pleading guilty.

    • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:36PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:36PM (#640218)

      It's identity theft. (not election interference... unless you go vote)

      It's wire fraud. (not election interference)

      It's conspiracy to defraud. (not election interference)

      So, if we're going to care about that stuff, there are a few million people in the USA right now who are committing identity theft.

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Monday February 19 2018, @08:53PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday February 19 2018, @08:53PM (#640260) Journal

        Using identity theft to interfere with an election is election interference.

        Using wire fraud to illegally donate to a political campaign is election interference.

        Using a conspiracy to hide the fact that you are illegally interfering in an election is election interference.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:37PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:37PM (#640219)

      You can't be that naive to not know that people are liable to plea out to something minor, because they can't afford a real defense.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by bob_super on Monday February 19 2018, @08:04PM

        by bob_super (1357) on Monday February 19 2018, @08:04PM (#640240)

        Those people ? We're not talking about Joe taco-place-owner here.

        They are pleading guilty to try to limit their own sentences, after they got cornered.
        It usually means that they did worse than what they are pleading guilty to, just that it's harder to prove.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @08:54PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @08:54PM (#640261)

      These people mostly aren't even in the country. They aren't pleading anything at all. They aren't even going to be arrested.

      It's like the Chinese military hackers that were charged with computer crimes. Good luck arresting them. You'd have to conquer China.

      It's like the American citizens that were charged in Italy for doing CIA stuff. Italy can bitch all they want, but what can they do? Invading the USA isn't going to go well. Maybe catch the people off-guard, toss them into unmarked vans, and then meet up with a mini-submarine off the coast of Alabama? Good luck with that.

      • (Score: 4, Touché) by Yog-Yogguth on Monday February 19 2018, @09:14PM

        by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 19 2018, @09:14PM (#640269) Journal

        They could always start kidnapping or murdering them like the US already does.

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