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A federal grand jury in Washington, DC has indicted 13 Russian nationals and a Kremlin-linked internet firm on charges that they had meddled in the 2016 presidential election.
The US government said Russian entities began interfering in US political processes, including the 2016 presidential election, as early as 2014, according to a court document.
[...] The charges – which include conspiracy, wire fraud, bank fraud and aggravated identity theft – are the most direct allegations to date of illegal Russian meddling in the election.
Link to the Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
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Mueller Investigation: Thirteen Russians Charged With Interfering in US Election
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by bob_super on Monday February 19 2018, @07:50PM (5 children)
> The Constitution may not be a divine document, but it's about as close as man can get.
Therein lies your problem.
It's a set of rules, written as a compromise by pretty smart guys, a couple centuries ago. It ain't sacred.
What is "sacred" is the global intent (not some details like that 3/5ths stuff), the directing principles, and the people's rights protected by those rules.
The details of how each branch is elected, what their exact relationships are ... that's just one implementation. You like yours. Other countries have tried many variants, which have proven better or worse in various situations. Some countries tweak their fundamental law every few years, to deal with specific needs. The US constitution deals with those changes via SCOTUS rulings, since amendments have become near impossible.
Don't worship the paper or the implementation itself. Its stability over a long time is indeed an impressive feat. But recognize its worth without treating it as a pinnacle that doesn't need improvements. The people who wrote it agreed that it would have to change (wisely). Treating it a near Divine is not the right idea. Swearing to defend it is correct, as long as defending the Rights of the People always comes before defending the institutions.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @08:01PM
That is what we have amendments for, honestly I find that the worst policies comes from people who don't really respect the Constitution. Is this just a slow news day? Feels like division being created for the sake of division with this article.
This coming from an AC that loves to set out burning bait and see how many suckers bite and post their bullshit for all to see.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:53PM (3 children)
The rights themselves are given by God, so they are literally what is considered sacred. The Constitution itself is not sacred, but meant to lay out a form of government that will defend and uphold those rights.
In that way it is possible to feel religious devotion for the God-given rights and also utter contempt for what the government has become. The rights trump the constitution, and the founders themselves said explicitly that should a government become injurious to those rights that citizens have a duty to do away with it. That is the historical moment at which we have arrived.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:56PM (2 children)
> The rights themselves are given by God
*Proof needed*
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday February 21 2018, @12:39PM (1 child)
Here you go [ushistory.org], one of the foundational documents of the United States, in case you haven't read it before. I particularly draw your attention to the first two paragraphs.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday February 21 2018, @05:09PM
Do atheists and non-creationists get no rights ?