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posted by Fnord666 on Monday February 19 2018, @05:43PM   Printer-friendly
from the do-attack-ads-count dept.

A federal grand jury in Washington, DC has indicted 13 Russian nationals and a Kremlin-linked internet firm on charges that they had meddled in the 2016 presidential election.

The US government said Russian entities began interfering in US political processes, including the 2016 presidential election, as early as 2014, according to a court document.

[...] The charges – which include conspiracy, wire fraud, bank fraud and aggravated identity theft – are the most direct allegations to date of illegal Russian meddling in the election.

Video - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/us-election-2016-russia-robert-mueller-investigation-fbi-latest-updates-a8214651.html

Link to the Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @02:12AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @02:12AM (#640401)

    I should hope it does expire. The Constitution is not a divine document and shouldn't be anybody's religion.

    Nope. It's not. Which is why it can, and has repeatedly, be amended.

    It also happens to be the law of the land throughout the United States.

    If you live in the United States, you are, if not a public official or a naturalized citizen (who give their explicit support for the Constitution), at bare minimum, giving tacit consent to the primacy of that document as the law of the land.

    If you think it's some or all of the constitution is wrong or bad, then convince enough people of your position and amend it. Alternatively, you can stay in the US, ignore it and risk the consequences, or leave the US.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:02AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:02AM (#640551)

    If you choose to be born on Piece of Land X, then you give Tacit Consent to have Y done to you. Seems reasonable. Maybe I'll just abandon my family and property and go to that other piece of land that isn't claimed by any government and won't be in the future. Oh, wait, that doesn't exist.

    There are actual arguments against anarchy, but this isn't one of them.

  • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Tuesday February 20 2018, @01:26PM (2 children)

    by jdavidb (5690) on Tuesday February 20 2018, @01:26PM (#640621) Homepage Journal

    If you live in the United States, you are, if not a public official or a naturalized citizen (who give their explicit support for the Constitution), at bare minimum, giving tacit consent to the primacy of that document as the law of the land.

    I do not consent.

    If you think it's some or all of the constitution is wrong or bad, then convince enough people of your position and amend it. Alternatively, you can stay in the US, ignore it and risk the consequences, or leave the US.

    I will continue to work to persuade people that this arrangement is not in their best interest.

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:25PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:25PM (#640820)

      If you live in the United States, you are, if not a public official or a naturalized citizen (who give their explicit support for the Constitution), at bare minimum, giving tacit consent to the primacy of that document as the law of the land.

      I do not consent.

      Civil disobedience is an occupation with a long history and mixed results. Assuming you aren't impinging on the rights of others, I support your choice.

      If you think it's some or all of the constitution is wrong or bad, then convince enough people of your position and amend it. Alternatively, you can stay in the US, ignore it and risk the consequences, or leave the US.

      I will continue to work to persuade people that this arrangement is not in their best interest.

      Given your posting history, there are some areas in which you are unlikely to garner my support. However, I applaud you for your efforts. That activity is at the heart of a free society.

      Further, other honest and fair minded folks have different conceptions as to what changes would be beneficial to our society. Creating broad coalitions has historically been the mechanism through which we have made positive (and some negative) strides in improving our institutions to better serve us all.

      As such, I suggest that perhaps you might consider *not* making the perfect the enemy of the good. This may already be the case for you, I don't know.

      • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Tuesday February 20 2018, @10:35PM

        by jdavidb (5690) on Tuesday February 20 2018, @10:35PM (#640904) Homepage Journal
        Good thoughts. Thank you.
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