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posted by janrinok on Sunday February 25 2018, @07:44PM   Printer-friendly
from the pound-of-flesh dept.

Ecuador's foreign minister has blamed Britain over the stalemate surrounding WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange following rekindled attempts to secure his safe exit from Quito's embassy in London.

"On the issue of mediation, I have to say very honestly that it has not been successful because two parties are needed to mediate, [sic]" Maria Fernanda Espinosa, the Ecuadorian foreign minister, told reporters Friday with respect to the Assange case, Agence France-Presse translated.

"Ecuador is willing but the other party is not," she added, referring to Britain, according to Reuters.

On the other hand, from the same source, and as we have already reported:

British authorities argue that Mr. Assange, an Australian, was under house arrest when he entered the embassy and should be apprehended for having breached his bail conditions if and when he exits.

Source: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/23/ecuador-blames-britain-over-julian-assange-impasse/


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 25 2018, @08:04PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 25 2018, @08:04PM (#643548)

    So what? That does not preclude the right to self defense against arbitrary authority. We need to stop sanctifying the state. The right to self defense is absolute.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 25 2018, @08:14PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 25 2018, @08:14PM (#643553)

    Not in the UK.

    Do not project your US ideals upon them. They have a different form of gov. You are at the will of the crown. You can enjoy quite a large number of freedoms but all of it is at the whim of the crown. The US flipped that as we have rights the gov shall not limit your rights. The constitution we have is a government limiter not a right giver, we already have the rights.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 25 2018, @08:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 25 2018, @08:26PM (#643559)

      All men have those rights. Some countries are run by assholes.

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Sunday February 25 2018, @08:52PM (2 children)

      by frojack (1554) on Sunday February 25 2018, @08:52PM (#643569) Journal

      Even in the US you don't have the right to "self defense against arbitrary authority". You don't get to decide what is arbitrary.

      You actually stand a better chance in court than barricading yourself and bleating self defense from the government. When has that EVER gone well?

      There is a lot of delusional understanding of supposed "rights" in the US, to say nothing about the rest of the world.

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      • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Sunday February 25 2018, @09:29PM

        by shortscreen (2252) on Sunday February 25 2018, @09:29PM (#643581) Journal

        Everyone has a right to self defense. And anyone with the requisite mental faculties certainly can decide for themselves what is arbitrary.

        Whether anyone else respects that decision is a separate issue.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 26 2018, @06:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 26 2018, @06:10PM (#644060)

        The country you live in is irrelevant. I have no regard for the arbitrary capricious laws of man. The right to self defense is absolute, as is any law of nature. Now, the ability to protect that right is still up for grabs. It is clearly a case of might makes right, but in reality, that is all we have. I mean, why else does a cop need to carry a gun?

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 26 2018, @12:10AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 26 2018, @12:10AM (#643649)

    > So what? That does not preclude the right to self defense against arbitrary authority. We need to stop sanctifying the state. The right to self defense is absolute.

    It's not absolute. The UK is just wrong on this. So are you. The UN formally found in February 2016 that Julian Assange is unlawfully detained by Sweden and the UK:

    https://www.justice4assange.com/UN-Working-Group-on-Arbitrary.html [justice4assange.com]

    Or read it from the UN itself directly, but watch out for docx malware:

    http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Issues/Detention/A.HRC.WGAD.2015.docx [ohchr.org]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 26 2018, @04:17AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 26 2018, @04:17AM (#643754)

      Than k you, I needed a good laugh.