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posted by janrinok on Tuesday February 27 2018, @08:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the unintended-consequences dept.

Uber, Lyft worsen city traffic, studies show: report

Despite promises of reducing traffic congestion, ride-hailing companies like Uber and Lyft are doing the opposite as their apps pluck passengers off public transportation and put pedestrians in cars, the Associated Press reported.

According to an AP review of research, studies show the ride-hailing apps are directly competing with mass transit and the increased number of taxis and Uber and Lyft cars on the road contribute to slower traffic. A New York-based study cited "vacant vehicles occupied only by drivers waiting for their next trip request," as a contributing factor for high-volume traffic in Manhattan's central business district, the AP reported.


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Thexalon on Tuesday February 27 2018, @09:01PM (8 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday February 27 2018, @09:01PM (#644799)

    Public transport? In the US? Let's not be too silly. That's for the poor.

    Where I am, the public perception isn't that it's for poor people as much as it is for black people. As in, the people expressing that viewpoint don't say it that way in public, they instead say "We don't want a bus line to this area because it will bring crime and drugs." But what they mean is "because black people will use it", and they make that abundantly clear to fellow honkeys like me when they don't think any black people are around. And that's also why they don't want to pay for public transit systems.

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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 28 2018, @03:38AM (5 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday February 28 2018, @03:38AM (#644951) Journal

    We get that out here even in Milwaukee, though it seems a little late for that, so instead the wypipo just bitch about what's already there. I'm from NYC originally and was very nearly born on the #7 subway, and am just white enough to sometimes be mistaken for Latina in low light, so these people just make me roll my eyes.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @05:59AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @05:59AM (#644995)

      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...

      A Queens girl, huh? Nope, my mother never warned me about you. Then again, I'm the youngest of a bunch of kids (all boys) so by the time I was around she likely just assumed we raise ourselves.

      But I've had my own experiences and my mileage has varied. :)

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 28 2018, @09:47PM (3 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday February 28 2018, @09:47PM (#645419) Journal

        Not just Queens. Harlem, the Bronx, a few other unsavory places...I moved a lot. Suffice it to say I was not from the good parts of any of these places.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:29AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:29AM (#645518)

          Not just Queens. Harlem, the Bronx, a few other unsavory places...I moved a lot. Suffice it to say I was not from the good parts of any of these places.

          I'm not sure why that makes you someone to be "warned" about. Are you dishonest? Otherwise untrustworthy?

          It's not really my business, but I'm nosy. :)

          I do understand that many people (especially men) are intimidated by strong/outspoken women, but that's more a reflection on those people than the strong/outspoken women, IMHO.

          I've lived in every borough except Stagnant Island myself, and have lived in some pretty unsavory places, especially in the 80s -- I could tell you some stories!

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 01 2018, @03:25AM (1 child)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday March 01 2018, @03:25AM (#645590) Journal

            Oh gods, Staten Island...that's the place people from the Jersey Shore make fun of. I have a few relatives out there and with one exception they are, well, they deserve to live in Staten Island.

            The warning thing is mostly an ironic jab at the very people you're talking about, though :) In particular, we have a few people (well,"people...") on here who seem to think any woman who isn't a compliant slab of meat with a wet hole and a compulsion for sandwich-making is...what did Uzzard say again...oh, yes, "blue-haired intersectional feminist" (as if that's a bad thing! blue hair is hot!). Odd how the big tough manly alpha men are so threatened by women, isn't it?

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            • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:07AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:07AM (#645607)

              Oh gods, Staten Island...that's the place people from the Jersey Shore make fun of. I have a few relatives out there and with one exception they are, well, they deserve to live in Staten Island.

              They're not *all* bad. In fact, I almost married a woman from SI many years ago.

              I also looked at an apartment in St. George once, even before that. And I never had the urge to do so again. :)

              ...think any woman who isn't a compliant slab of meat with a wet hole and a compulsion for sandwich-making is...[a] "blue-haired intersectional feminist" (as if that's a bad thing! blue hair is hot!). Odd how the big tough manly alpha men are so threatened by women, isn't it?

              You're referring to attitudes (sadly all too common) where men see others (usually women) as simply objects and not inherently equal humans deserving of agency, respect and equal consideration,

              IMNSHO, men with such attitudes are despicable, untrustworthy scum who reflect poorly on men who don't share those attitudes. There are certainly women who fit that description as well, but in far fewer numbers.

              What's worse and even more disgusting is that when one challenges those attitudes, it often makes the holders of same quite uncomfortable and they see it as a threat to their masculinity, often with ugly, violent consequences.

              That said,

              ...a compliant slab of meat with a wet hole and a compulsion for sandwich-making is..."blue-haired..."(as if that's a bad thing! blue hair is hot!).

              The truth is that many people (both men and women) fit that description. And as long as there is consent, respect on both sides, real caring, affection and a desire by both partners to please each other, coupled with a strong bond of connection and trust, that's not necessarily a bad thing. Blue hair and all! :)

              That, of course, is predicated on such a relationship being much more than just a one-way street, where one party is the [ab]user and the other is the [ab]used. All relationships have power dynamics and, if those dynamics are unequal, that doesn't automatically make it an unhealthy or abusive relationship.

              Sadly, too many relationships don't include the important (respect, trust, caring and consent) stuff.

              Odd how the big tough manly alpha men are so threatened by women, isn't it?

              As I implied above, I'd argue that being uncomfortable with strong women is a sign of insecurity and a *lack* of self-confidence, not alpha manliness. As such, they are not, as you put it, "tough manly alpha men" at all.

              That's why bullies need to "prove" their strength and power, because they are weak, insecure, frightened cowards.

              Those who really are tough, strong and self-respecting (man or woman) don't need to "prove" their strength and toughness to anyone. They just are who they are and that's good enough for them.

              Robert Redford and Faye Dunaway discuss this briefly in relation to Faye Dunaway's boyfriend [youtube.com] in "Three Days of The Condor."

              If you haven't seen that movie, I highly recommend it.

              I went on about this a lot longer than I'd intended, but it's something I feel strongly about. I hope I didn't veer too far off-topic.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @04:31AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @04:31AM (#644971)

    Where I am, the public perception isn't that it's for poor people as much as it is for black people. As in, the people expressing that viewpoint don't say it that way in public, they instead say "We don't want a bus line to this area because it will bring crime and drugs." But what they mean is "because black people will use it", and they make that abundantly clear to fellow honkeys like me when they don't think any black people are around. And that's also why they don't want to pay for public transit systems.

    My town is fairly upscale and wealthy but there is a WalMart on the outskirts. We fought the bus line extension from the next county over as long as we could. They finally threatened to file a Federal lawsuit and we relented and they built a stop at WalMart. Guess what? It DID bring crime. The WalMart went ghetto almost immediately. They cut back on employees. Shelves go empty. Shoplifting jumped. Car break-ins in the parking lot. Beggars/Con-Artists stop you with their 20 minute bullshit sob story asking for money or wanting you to take them to your ATM. And now, I drive ten miles to the next city in the opposite direction on the rare occasion I want to visit WalMart when I could stop on the way home from work, three miles down the road from my house.

    It's no mans land.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @06:11AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @06:11AM (#644996)

      My town is fairly upscale and wealthy but there is a WalMart on the outskirts. We fought the bus line extension from the next county over as long as we could. They finally threatened to file a Federal lawsuit and we relented and they built a stop at WalMart. Guess what? It DID bring crime. The WalMart went ghetto almost immediately. They cut back on employees. Shelves go empty. Shoplifting jumped. Car break-ins in the parking lot. Beggars/Con-Artists stop you with their 20 minute bullshit sob story asking for money or wanting you to take them to your ATM. And now, I drive ten miles to the next city in the opposite direction on the rare occasion I want to visit WalMart when I could stop on the way home from work, three miles down the road from my house.

      It's no mans land.

      Come move to my 'hood. We'll straighten you right out. 20+ years on this block and almost never that stuff. And when there is, we know how to deal with it/them. I bet you lock your car doors at red lights after 4PM too

      Oh, and I'm sure that a 2BR apartment on my block costs more than your *house* too [zillow.com]. Upscale my ass.

      You've got a yellow streak a foot wide. Grow a pair.