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posted by janrinok on Tuesday February 27 2018, @08:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the unintended-consequences dept.

Uber, Lyft worsen city traffic, studies show: report

Despite promises of reducing traffic congestion, ride-hailing companies like Uber and Lyft are doing the opposite as their apps pluck passengers off public transportation and put pedestrians in cars, the Associated Press reported.

According to an AP review of research, studies show the ride-hailing apps are directly competing with mass transit and the increased number of taxis and Uber and Lyft cars on the road contribute to slower traffic. A New York-based study cited "vacant vehicles occupied only by drivers waiting for their next trip request," as a contributing factor for high-volume traffic in Manhattan's central business district, the AP reported.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Kilo110 on Tuesday February 27 2018, @10:27PM (5 children)

    by Kilo110 (2853) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 27 2018, @10:27PM (#644838)

    I can't speak to DC, but NYC Subways run 24/7. So there's no guaranteed chunk of downtime to make repairs and clean tracks.

    That makes repairs less frequent and less thorough.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by frojack on Wednesday February 28 2018, @01:52AM

    by frojack (1554) on Wednesday February 28 2018, @01:52AM (#644919) Journal

    You know there is more than on train, right? They can and do take entire trains or individual cars off line for repairs and maintenance.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_City_Subway_yards [wikipedia.org]
    https://untappedcities.com/2015/12/16/7-nyc-tunnels-where-subway-trains-go-to-sleep/ [untappedcities.com]

    Cleaning the tracks?
    https://gizmodo.com/this-superheroic-train-keeps-new-york-citys-subway-safe-1571987376 [gizmodo.com]

    The MTA walks (humans on foot) every track twice every week.

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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday February 28 2018, @02:10PM (3 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday February 28 2018, @02:10PM (#645127) Journal

    NYC takes entire stretches of subway lines offline on the weekends or in the middle of the night to do that maintenance. It's a major inconvenience if you're staying out late and can add literal hours to what would take 30 minutes ordinarily. Cabs, uber, and bike sharing step neatly into that gap.

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    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday February 28 2018, @03:23PM (2 children)

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Wednesday February 28 2018, @03:23PM (#645177) Homepage
      Have they never heard of a replacement bus service? In the UK one hears that phrase every weekend.
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      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday February 28 2018, @08:13PM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday February 28 2018, @08:13PM (#645363) Journal

        They do that for major, long term work (like recovering from the last hurricane), but it's not standard.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:50AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:50AM (#645531)

          They do that for major, long term work (like recovering from the last hurricane), but it's not standard.

          Perhaps it's not standard where you are. Where I live, there's been pretty regular shutdowns of local subway service in *one* direction between two express stops pretty much every weekend for the past couple of years.

          But there's always free busses (which are a huge pain in the ass, but they are there) to take you to a station where the train is running.

          While it's still quite amusing if you live/have lived in NYC, this bit [nytimes.com] isn't nearly as apropos any more, nor has it been for quite a while, although recently the MTA seems to be trying to bring back the "good old days.":

          I for one cannot protest the recent M.T.A. fare hike and the accompanying promises that this would in no way improve service. For the transit system, as it now operates, has hidden advantages that can't be measured in monetary terms.

          Personally, I feel that it is well worth 75 cents or even $1 to have that unimpeachable excuse whenever I am late to anything: ''I came by subway.'' Those four words have such magic in them that if Godot should someday show up and mumble them, any audience would instantly understand his long delay.