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posted by janrinok on Wednesday February 28 2018, @07:29PM   Printer-friendly
from the late-pay-back dept.

A new study links doing one's homework, being interested and behaving responsibly in high school to better academic and career success as many as 50 years later. This effect, reported in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, holds true even after accounting for parental income, IQ and other factors known to influence achievement, researchers report.

The study analyzed decades of data collected by the American Institutes for Research beginning in 1960 and continuing to the present. The original data set included more than 370,000 students. High school participants were originally tested on academic, cognitive and behavioral characteristics in 1960 and also responded to follow-up surveys in later years. The new analysis looked at the initial student tests and their responses 11 years and 50 years later.

Of the 1,952 participants randomly selected from those who responded to surveys 50 years later, "those who showed more interest in high school and had higher writing skills reported earning higher incomes," said Spengler, who led the study. "They also tended to have higher occupational prestige than their peers when they showed responsible behaviors as a student." This was in addition to the gains associated with IQ, family income and personality traits such as conscientiousness, she said.

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-links-responsible-behavior-high-school.html

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Behavior in high school predicts income and occupational success later in life

American Psychological Association

[Source]: University of Illinois

The paper "How you behave in school predicts life success above and beyond family background, broad traits, and cognitive ability" is available online and from the U. of I. News Bureau. DOI

Has your experience been as described ??


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @10:46PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @10:46PM (#645459)

    I spent the entirety of my high school years in the library and the computer lab, studying. As a teenager, I had no life, no friends, and no job. As a adult, I still have no life, no friends, and no job. Why do you suppose that is? Oh that's right. All you motherfucking asshole shitheads lied about jobs for computer programmers. There aren't any jobs. There never were any jobs. You are all fucking liars.

    I still code, for what it's worth, which is absolutely nothing. There aren't any six-figure coding jobs out there like you fuckers are always spreading rumors about. There aren't even any five-figure coding jobs. There are absolutely no coding jobs at all.

    So fuck you and fuck your tech industry hoax, the greatest education scam in history. I was an A student for nothing, and I might as well have skipped school and started my life in poverty so much sooner, without the false hope of your goddamned fucking tech jobs hoax.

    Fuck you all to hell.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @11:00PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @11:00PM (#645468)

    However, it's time to make a change in your life.

    Move to another place on the planet.

    Learn a new skill.

    Find productive work you don't mind doing; find people with whom you like to collaborate.

    Life is a prison, but in our modern world, life is largely a prison of your own making.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @11:53PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 28 2018, @11:53PM (#645498)

    Go to a college with a Software Engineering degree or go start an eBay store. Find some stuff listed for free off Craigslist and list it on eBay. There are tons of ways to make a living without needing an extensive education or a large investment to get started. Go listen to side hustling podcasts for more ideas. Dog sitting. AirBnb. Renting out your car (not taxi/ride sharing services). Picking up trash from parking lots for 30 an hour (go talk to the stores and ask for a trial period to become their lot cleaner). Etc...

    Your problem is your attitude.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:30AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:30AM (#645617)

    I got laid off my programming job 1 week ago (plus 2 weeks advance "notice" before that), and I just got a new job at a raise for close to $150,000.
    This seems like I am posting to rub salt in the wound, but I promise I am not. I put it out there as proof that software jobs really are out there, but you do have to:

    1) Live in an area where there is a sizable software or IT services industry
    2) Have in-demand (current, but not necessarily cutting edge) skills
    3) Be able to verbally explain the value you bring as an employee
    4) Have an employment record that shows strong (and ideally increasing) responsibility

    You can turn it around and join the programming world, but only if you can give employers what they are looking for.
    And you have to be willing to live where the jobs are.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:02AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:02AM (#645650)

      And you have to be willing to live where the jobs are.

      Have fun with your insanely expensive cost of living, or at least in most cases. In a world where it's possible to work remotely, this is fucking inexcusable.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:49PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:49PM (#645737)

        It's a different set of tradeoffs, remote versus onsite.
        Remote work tends to be a career dead end. If you are OK with never advancing beyond programmer individual contributor, this may be fine.
        Customer interaction is pretty hard to do remotely as a general rule too. On the plus side, if you enjoy living off the beaten path, you can as a remote worker. You just need internet access.
        On the minus side, if your work can be done remotely, then it can be done by anyone in the world that speaks your boss's language. You are competing with the entire world, and this tends to lower your wage.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 04 2018, @01:03PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 04 2018, @01:03PM (#647604)

          The problem is that, once you do the math, you'll often find that it's not worth living in places like Silicone Valley at all, even if the job appears to pay an insane amount.

          On the minus side, if your work can be done remotely, then it can be done by anyone in the world that speaks your boss's language. You are competing with the entire world, and this tends to lower your wage.

          Maybe you're not very good at your job then. Of course, most employees are bad at telling if someone is good at their job, so they'd probably happily replace a good employee with some random fool in India.