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posted by martyb on Saturday March 03 2018, @03:11AM   Printer-friendly
from the under-the-gun dept.

Lawmakers in Georgia removed a $38 million tax exemption for jet fuel from tax-cut legislation on Thursday in a move that will punish Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines.

Republicans vowed to remove the exemption after the airline cut ties with the National Rifle Association (NRA).

Georgia's Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle (R), who is also running for governor, had threatened to kill any tax legislation that benefits Delta after the company's decision to end a discount program for NRA members.

[...] "I will kill any tax legislation that benefits @Delta unless the company changes its position and fully reinstates its relationship with @NRA," Angle tweeted earlier this week.

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/376327-georgia-senate-passes-bill-that-effectively-punishes-delta-air-lines-for


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @03:15AM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @03:15AM (#646795)

    I see Delta filling up planes elsewhere than Atlanta. Who knows, they may already play this game, buying the lowest price fuel possible, given constraints of range and additional consumption when flying at higher loading.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @03:19AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @03:19AM (#646796)

    (same AC) Hit enter too soon.
    I do something similar when driving along I-80 -- after a few trips it's clear which states have higher fuel taxes. It's easy to fill up in the lower priced states and not buy gas where the taxes are high.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Saturday March 03 2018, @03:40AM (6 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Saturday March 03 2018, @03:40AM (#646808)

    No, I don't think it works that way. You generally have to refuel every time you land, and you generally only want enough fuel for that trip, plus reserve; you don't want to haul extra fuel because that makes you use even more fuel (sorta like the rocket equation). It's doubtful that an extra sales tax will be enough to overcome the inefficiency caused by hauling full fuel when you don't need to.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:50AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:50AM (#646842)

      No, but Delta has a hub in Atlanta. This could be a large incentive for them to move it to somewhere else.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:10PM (#647102)

        Wonder if this might have an effect on any Georgia Amazon HQ2 bids?

      • (Score: 1) by MachineShedFred on Saturday March 03 2018, @09:39PM

        by MachineShedFred (1656) on Saturday March 03 2018, @09:39PM (#647279)

        I doubt there are any airports built out enough to take on all of Delta's Atlanta hub operations. It's one of (if not the) busiest airports in the world.

        That being said, a move like this may have them consider opening up connection flights to airports that they currently have service and gates at, but are under-utilized, such as Cincinnati (which used to be a Delta hub). They mostly pulled out of there except regional service, and CVG is like a ghost town these days - massively overbuilt even after tearing down Terminal 1. There's a reason DHL and Amazon Prime Air are using it as a global cargo hub - 4 nice long 10,000+ foot runways, and 7 million less passengers annually then there was before the Delta / Northwest Airlines merger.

        CVG knows where the money is at too - they're expanding the cargo terminals and widening the runways to accommodate larger aircraft, mostly for cargo.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:56AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:56AM (#646847)

      That's ridiculously ignorant. The carriers buy large amounts of fuel regularly via futures when they think the price is going up. They don't just buy the fuel necessary for the trip the way that people do for a road trip. That would make it extremely hard to price tickets as they'd have no idea what to charge for the fuel portion of the fare.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:47PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:47PM (#647181)

        Aren't futures a separate cash transaction based on a market's rate?

        They still have to use money and buy fuel at time of purchase.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @11:05AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @11:05AM (#646990)

      pilots have tools to calculate when its worth carrying extra fuel somewhere. if you are flying between somewhere with cheap fuel and somewhere with expensive fuel, it can be worth it to fill the plane at teh cheap place you so don't need to buy as much expensive fuel.

      Captain Joe explains it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW_42xmcsBU [youtube.com]

  • (Score: 1) by MachineShedFred on Saturday March 03 2018, @09:31PM (1 child)

    by MachineShedFred (1656) on Saturday March 03 2018, @09:31PM (#647276)

    This isn't your car. The more weight you fly with, the more costly the flight is. They put on enough fuel to get the aircraft where it is going, with a decent safety margin.

    They can't just gas it up once a week and call it good.

    • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Saturday March 03 2018, @11:56PM

      by darkfeline (1030) on Saturday March 03 2018, @11:56PM (#647340) Homepage

      Actually, cars are the same. The mileage of my car with 12 gals is significantly lower than with 4 gals. A few gallons of gas weighs a lot.

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